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I don't get why the Bretons and Redguard's destroyed Orsinium 4 times. I don't know why they think they're such a threat. Why not make an alliance with the orcs again and go to war with the Khajitt and Aldmeri Dominion?

We are mocked for all we stand for;

Our worship of Malacath;

Our creation from the dung of Boethia from Trinimac;

Our lack of "attractiveness"

Our Tribal Lifestyle in strongholds

&c

If they didn't, they'd be fighting each other, which would be major for them. So they pick on the minority, which is safer.

They test us for weakness, and find none.

Because orcs were the bad guys in Tolkien LOTR series for one which shaped people's minds. Second, they look like ugly pig faced people.

LOL dude WTF is that supposed to mean?

so it seems, to others.

I, embrace my physical ugliness, for soul purity in Malacath's light!

You're not an orc, brah.

They way ESO shows it, the Code of Malacath works against them. Individual Orcs are strong. Strongholds are self reliant. But they're no match for a king's army and the stronghold system doesn't scale up to that size effectively. This makes them a relatively easy target outside Orsinium and causes discontent among traditionalists within Orsinium. That's probably why the new cult of Trinimac preached "unity" as a key virtue.

There's also the grudge. The faithful of Malacath don't forget grudges and much of the outside world has a massive blood debt that they just keep rising. An eye for an eye makes the world blind, but other cultures pragmatically or ideologically forgive and they have sheer numbers on their side.

They know that. But being surrounded by enemies keeps them strong. So far as they're concerned, that's good. Aside from being a colossal injustice, peace through integration would soften them.

Who says I'm not?

I still wish to see the day when Orsinium is at least acknowledged as a province!

Orcs aren't real, breh.

Who can truly say?

To me, they exist. Maybe not in body, but in soul.

Lets not forget to mention that Argonians and Khajitt are sitting in the Ugly Tree together. I've also seen some pretty hideous looking Nords, Bosmer, and Dunmer too.

Well nothing against orcs and would be fun to play one next time around as a stealthy assassin character.

I think they got the double negative here... for one, they worship Trinimac and still Mer in some way, opposed to Men and Lorkhan. On the other hand, they're not looked kindly on by Mer too, since Trinimac is dead and Malacath is merely Boethiah's reanimated Dung. Err.... or something.

And then even other Daedric lords don't acknowledge him as one of their own too. It's like the embarassing family member or something.

So make that a Triple Negative.

I like Orcs though personally. The average one, that is.

Because it's what they are. They're the Pariah Folk, and it is in their very nature. As Azura's Curse is baked into the nature of the Dunmer, so too is the Pariah Folk bound to the nature of the Orsimer.

I always play orcs characters, even my mage is and orc. I like the fact that they are so different than the orcs from Tolkien stories. Their simple, self sustaining society and the Code of Malacath.

Honestly, I like Warcraft's take on Orcs the most. I'm not a big fan of the games or settings otherwise though.

Orcs are literal space aliens in Warcraft. So it fits.

I like it, although as I said, I dislike the games (and all MMOs really). But their art style is top notch imo.. and they make it work on low end systems (or rather, it's more dependent on style rather than pixel tech). I wish others learned from them. I bet Overwatch will look good for a long time too.

Bias from our cultural upbringing and the many times they've been our enemies in most every story. At least here we start to see them as fully developed characters and not just demonic henchmen of an evil wizard.