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Aedra and the Dunmer

PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 9:05 pm
by Karine laverre
Why don't the Dunmer worship the Aedra? It seems (in MW) that they have no relationship with each other whatsoever, even historically.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 3:03 am
by Alyna
You almost answered your own question: they have no relationship with each other their whole history.

Remember that Veloth led the Chimer/Dunmer Exodus from the Altmer tribes to complete the Endeavor, part of which required that they discard Altmer traditions (that included worshipping the Aedra).

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 4:35 pm
by krystal sowten
So they just give up on a whole pantheon of gods because they want to differentiate themselves from the altmer?

It says something about the divines if they lose followers on the whim of people reinventing themselves.

Edit: And that the Dunmer have had no interest in reestablishing any sort of relationship.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:19 pm
by Georgine Lee
So they just give up on a whole pantheon of gods because they want to differentiate themselves from the altmer?

It says something about the divines if they lose followers on the whim of people reinventing themselves.

Edit: And that the Dunmer have had no interest in reestablishing any sort of relationship.


It's a bit like asking why Crhristians are christians and why Muslims are Muslims, in my opinion....

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:15 pm
by joseluis perez
Edit: And that the Dunmer have had no interest in reestablishing any sort of relationship.


The Oblivion Crisis, the death of the Tribunal and the ascension of Helseth to power, may have changed that.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 2:40 pm
by Laura-Lee Gerwing
I believe they abandoned Aedra worship when Boethiah supposedly exposed Trinimac and the Aedra as liars.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 7:38 pm
by Kate Murrell
The Oblivion Crisis, the death of the Tribunal and the ascension of Helseth to power, may have changed that.


Well, Vivec speculates Dunmer religion will shift back to pre-Tribunal ancestral worship.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 6:49 pm
by Nick Pryce
I probably shouldv'e asked WHY the Dunmer think that the Aedra have nothing to offer.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 2:51 am
by Rachel Hall
So they just give up on a whole pantheon of gods because they want to differentiate themselves from the altmer?

The other way round.

They gave up on ze Aedra and then were forced to differentiate themselves from the Altmer.

Think of it like the Reformation on Earth. Or the creation of Christianity. Or a lot of religions.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 12:44 pm
by Dawn Porter
I probably shouldv'e asked WHY the Dunmer think that the Aedra have nothing to offer.

Because the aedra always whined over the creation of Mundus and how Lorkhan "tricked" them, and not realizing the point of creating the world(s). Boethiah basically demonstrated to the Velothi how Trinimac and company were just a bunch of whiny little *****es.

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PostPosted: Sun May 29, 2011 12:12 am
by Naomi Ward
Well, Vivec speculates Dunmer religion will shift back to pre-Tribunal ancestral worship.


I forget his exact words, but he implied the Temple would revert to worship of ancestors as well as the Good Daedra, and the Tribunal would be seen as saints and heroes of the people, nothing more.

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PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2011 11:35 am
by Jack
Because the aedra always whined over the creation of Mundus and how Lorkhan "tricked" them, and not realizing the point of creating the world(s). Boethiah basically demonstrated to the Velothi how Trinimac and company were just a bunch of whiny little *****es.

Hence why they have such bad things to say about the Imperial Cult's Aedra, because they don't know that they're mythologically different.

Also, it sounds like an example of Daedra drawing away followers from the Aedra. Boethiah, Mephala, Azura, Sheogorath, and Malacath seem to have a particular fondness for mortal followers.