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Where does your allegiance lie?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:10 am
by Lil Miss

So let's say you can choose to be a citizen of the Mojave and apart of a faction. Which faction would it be?

Just a very basic question but aside from the usual "which of the four armies do you support," it's more about hearing which faction do you support most when given a choice to be apart of any of them, and which would you support if the chance to do so felt realistic or plausible...not neccesarily to support them overtaking Hoover Dam, but to at least support protecting their well-being and moral code.

I've tried to include every possible faction within the poll but please let me know if I forgot one. Also, House and Yes-man are not factions, so no, you must choose one of their "sub-factions" to be a part of.

Mind you also, choosing a town is essentially saying "don't really care for any of these groups, let me just live somewhere I like." Choosing the Strip essentially means not being a part of a casino and scraping by however you can, like the Street Vendor.

But overall basically your vote chooses which group you would want to be born into if given a chance and which you'd be most eager to support.


Where does your allegiance lie?

PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:39 pm
by tiffany Royal

What happens in The Strip, stays in The Strip.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:01 pm
by Dean Ashcroft

I guess I could see myself making crank with a Great Khan like group were I to wake up and find myself in radioactive post apocalyptic Mojave Desert


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:57 pm
by Jah Allen
NCR and proud.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:02 pm
by Sandeep Khatkar

The Strip.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 3:00 pm
by Lexy Dick

Regardless of what ending I choose, I always throw in fully with the Followers. Albert Einstein is quoted as having said that "We shall require a substantially new manner of thinking if mankind is to survive." The Followers have that correct mindset in my opinion. Less killing and more cooperation means greater progress for all. I'd like to be able to throw in with the Brotherhood of Steel. I always ally with them, and I like Owen Lyons a great deal (not a great leader perhaps, but a dam good one), but their Codex is jacked, the MBOS follows it without question, and their discipline is lacking big time. Add to that the fact that they're a closed society not unlike the Spartans and you have an orgamization with poor long- term prospects. Regardless, I ally with both and would support the Followers as an ending faction if that was possible.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:31 pm
by Chantelle Walker

Another vote for the Followers - learning from the past to work towards a future free of war and conflict. Idealism mixed with practical aid for those who need it.

Honourable mentions for the Kings and Westside.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:39 pm
by Naazhe Perezz
I respect the Followers but what they're doing is a mixed result. They teach everyone but unfortunately that ends up with drug dealers taking advantage of the teaching as evidence with the Great Khans who in turn are making drugs for groups like the Fiends who are going after innocent people, not just NCR soldiers.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:23 am
by Rhysa Hughes

I chose "The Kings" followers are second place, but I just dig what the King's do to protect the little people. Plus I have a soft spot for them, since on one of my very first playthroughs I inadvertently lead to their destruction.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:51 am
by Wayland Neace

I'm the other vote for the Kings, just in case anyone was wondering.

Listen, I love the Followers. I often don't discuss the Followers because to me they're so morally correct that they're boring to discuss: we all agree they're awesome.
However, I feel I relate to the Kings more because....let's be clear on something: if the Kings did not exist the Followers couldn't thrive. The Kings are the police force of Freeside, not the Followers. I feel like the Followers strive for the Ghandi-like level of pacifism and peace that we all wish we could be, but simply isn't a reality. Again let's be clear on something: Ghandi was assassinated. :/ I love pacifists and it's a philosophy I can get behind 100%, but at the same time, self-preservation and justice are good things too. And that's exactly what the Kings stand for: freedom and justice. The Kings value freedom as the defining theme of their lives; they'd do anything to preserve freedom, even if it meant laying down their own lives. The Kings allow for drunks, chem addicts, prosttutes, you name it. The only thing the Kings don't tolerate is those who lack the ability to show the respect they deserve to others. You deserve your rights, and so do others. The moment you encroach on the rights of others? That is the singular time that the Kings will provide anything but anarchy.

To me, the Kings are the most beautifully simplistic and fair philosophy in the entirety of the Wasteland, and I would gladly stand by them and what they stand for, whether it be in imitating Elvis or making a suicidal last stand against any invaders to Freeside; not out of hopes of actually winning, but out of principle. I've said it before and I'll say it again: the King is -the- only faction leader in the game brave enough to stand and die for what he believes in.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:28 pm
by Crystal Clarke

Personally, the Boomers are my favourite faction.

One day they'll open up, but they'll do a lot better than Vault 13 when it comes to meeting the rest of society.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 9:25 pm
by emily grieve

I would add that the actions of every faction in the wasteland produce a mixed result. If the worst that can be said of the Followers is that some of the people that they help decide to use that knowledge in a negative manner, then the Followers are paragons of virtue in the wasteland.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:24 pm
by Judy Lynch

China. PRAISE THE GLORY OF CHAIRMAN CHANG! DOWN WITH THE CAPITALIST PIG DOG AMERICANS!


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:24 am
by Crystal Birch

This is true but at least the Followers tried to give the Khans an alternative, to develop their way of life and give them an alternative beyond raiding and drug dealing. I like the Followers precisely because they are outside the wasteland norm followed by almost every other faction, being prepared to solve problems by shooting someone. They try to resolve the basic causes of war instead. Yes it doesn't always work. Yes they don't have the resources or numbers to implement their philosophy on a large scale. But they try.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:53 pm
by Alexx Peace

Well if i were to magically wake up in the Mojave one day, i'd probably make my way to Jacobstown and help Lily farming bighorners :D

If i were to be born there i'd rather be born into the Legion


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 12:27 pm
by Andrew Lang
I found this difficult to decide on, but I voted Followers of the Apocalypse.

Helping people out no matter there differences, is pretty noble. I'd probably end up as a guard, or just regular help.

I was originally going to pick NCR, but a lot of citizens can have a rough time in the Mojave. Fiends, Powder Gangers, Freeside in general, the Legion, and all the other random groups of raiders and killers.

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 5:28 pm
by Zosia Cetnar

Followers once again.

Is this going to be a thing in every post now?


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 8:47 pm
by Ysabelle

Might I recommend adding "Myself" to the poll? I have a feeling that I'm not the only one who has had those types of playthroughs.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 10:09 am
by louise fortin

:mohawk:


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 6:41 am
by Aaron Clark

Brotherhood of Steel


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:12 pm
by Davorah Katz


I voted for the Strip because its the primary motor for the reindustrialization and recivillization of the Mohave. House has a plan, and he has everything going for him.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 2:14 pm
by Zosia Cetnar

The Kings and/or the Followers - hard to choose, I like them both a lot. Why not be a King that works with the Followers? ;)


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 7:20 pm
by Roy Harris

Screw NCR. A few rangers with bullets in their skulls, suits me just fine. Bitter Springs, never forget.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 11:21 am
by Darlene DIllow

NCR or Goodsprings. NCR, because they are trying to rebuild a world that I can relate to. Goodsprings, because it is the place (people) that helped me to regain my former self.


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PostPosted: Tue Sep 22, 2015 1:35 pm
by Rude Gurl

Oh yeah lets just ask Bitter Root what he remembers about Bitter Springs:

"I grew up around the bastards... they owed me a name after all they put me throught."

"They're dead. (His parents) Got themselves killed at Bitter Springs. Served them right, if you ask me."

"They're scum. Lazy, thumped-up Raiders. Most of the time, they're drunk or high, and when they're not shooting chems, they're selling them."

"It was a massacre. That's what a lot of the NCR folks will tell you. Most of them feel plently bad about what happened."

"I was there. Saw it myself, I don't care what anybody says. The Khans asked for Bitter Springs. They wouldn't leave the NCR be."

"My parents, too. They were just as bad as the rest."

"You're Sorry? Well, that makes one of us. Bitter Springs was the best thing that ever happened to me."

"My dad, he got himself [censored] up, every change he got. Always started with folk for no reason."

"Hell he was the one who taught me to shoot. You know how? By taking potshots at NCR. And not just soldiers. Civilians, too. Even kids."

"Then he's get high with his buddies and swap tales about the folk they killed. Bunch of animals. And my mom... couple of times she tried to sell me to some waster, just to score some Jet. Even the other Khans said she was useless."

Major Dhatri: Yeah, I was there. I was Captain Dhatri then. That whole situation was a mess and could easily have been avoided with good intel. The major in charge at the time made a bad call- he though Bitter Springs was a full of Great Khan raiders, so we surrounded the place. By the time any of us realized there were civilians down there, women and children, the shooting had already started. The major froze up at the news, we couldn't get another word out of him. I took over and salvaged the situation as best I could.

Oscar Velasco: We were the Flails of God. The scourge of the Mojave, the best warriors and raiders in the Wasteland. Until the NCR tracked us back to Bitter Springs.

Papa Khan: "The Great Khans came east out of the NCR 14 years ago. We ruled the Wastes, then and called no man master. But we underestimated the Famlies of the Strip and they drove us back to Bitter Springs, where we remained until the NCR arrived and drove us here. When the NCR came to the Mojave, we thought they would be easy pickings. We raided their caravans, their towns, their camps, they couldn't stop us."