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I have a bit of a problem seeing the logic here...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 5:38 pm
by Matt Fletcher

-In Fallout 2, there's at least one fully-operating car (the "Highwayman")

-In Fallout New Vegas, we learn that the NCR have operating railroads (Powder Gangers were convicts that used to build/maintain railrods, and there are NPCs mentioning mining rocks that were taken away by train)

And still, caravans travel on foot mile by mile, in a dry desert landscape, no less. Surely, when a Brahmin can be used to carry packs, it could also haul a cart? There is wood available, and iron, and when railroads and trains can be maintained and operated, surely a Brahmin-drawn cart is well within the technological abilities of the society? And where have all the horses gone? It really makes no sense to not have horses, when other pre-war animals exist, albeit in mutated variants... Even if horses had somehow mutated to no longer be rideable they surely could be made usable to haul carts or carriages?


I have a bit of a problem seeing the logic here...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 11:50 pm
by Nathan Maughan

One, the horses, can be explained by artistic choice. Horses being used as transport are pretty generic and the devs want to use something a bit more post-apocalyptic feeling: ergo we have mutated cattle being used for the same purpose. I agree it makes no sense though why horses should not exist. But there's a lot of animals that don't make an appearance in the Fallout series.

The other can be explained by engine mechanics. Its harder to animate a moving brahmin and cart successfully than it is to just strap a back to one and call it good (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3BgAMH6Qp8). In New Vegas you can see usable carts everywhere, so its beyond question that carts are being used in-lore. A similar case can be made for trains. We don't see them, but we know that steam trains are used.


I have a bit of a problem seeing the logic here...

PostPosted: Fri Oct 02, 2015 6:41 pm
by Victor Oropeza

Does it specifically say steam trains? All the trains shown in-game in New Vegas are diesel (EMD F-units, unless I'm mistaken - or at least very closely based on them).