My conjuration is at 100 max all perks and I just completed the requirement quest for it but when I tried to use the summon unbound dremora lord I got from the phinis, nothing appear? I tried to dual summon the conjure dremora and that work but they dissapear after a while ( i waited 3 hour to test it out) so is there something that I did wrong?

The Thralls are different spells. As great as it would be, it's just not an option. I'd love it if you could summon a Dremora Thrall then interact with it like another NPC.

I know the thrall are different but I know for a fact that you can summon 2 pernament dremora but I don't know how...

i can summon one for 4 min. that's not permanent but its pretty long

I don't think you can summon a permanent Dremora Lord. Maybe if you're on PC and there's some fancy voodoo programming you can do (clearly not programmer literate here). If you duel cast the summon spell of a Dremora, you can probably get a lot longer time for it.

you can kill dremora markynz and dead thrall them although there are better thralls like bandit cheifs

Abuse alchemy; drink fortify conjuration potion ~ 2,000,000%, cast daemora lord.

permanent.

That may be true, but a Bandit Chief isn't nearly as snappy a dresser as a Dremora.

I know I'm going to sound stupid for asking...but is that even remotely possible? I've never been one to use alchemy so I have no idea what's possible.

you don't want a permanent summon. They lag behind you in the open and get in your way in dungeons.

You cannot summon a permanent dremora lord without cheating.

Also, I agree with the above poster. I am very unsatisfied with my permanent summons. They just wander off or don't follow you. I have had a autronach show up through the back door of a dungeon after something like thirty minutes of not seeign him. Just wandered in as I was about to take the shortcut out through a door he theoretically shouldn't have been able to access. Scared the crap out of me.

Because the game mechanics don't allow it.

OO, it doesn't? I heard some where that you can do it at master level, I guess that explain why XD, I got a forsworn briarheart following me around for now...

It's not like it's hard to resummon another one. I'd prefer to send them off in front of me to start the fighting anyway. Pop them in a room, all the enemies get on them, I walk in and start blasting away. Works great.

summoning dremora lords takes so little magicka it doesnt really matter I find