Well if you're going to make it, it'd probably be best if you followed your own.... artistic vision so to speak. If you're going for the whole guild/faction thing, probably best to start out with some ground work.

1: add some friendly(non-hostile) deathclaws

2: Try and see if you can add dialogue to them, and how well it functions ( for instance it has been mentioned that the deathclaws don't have moveable jaws in their skeletons, so at the very least you'll have to do without lip syncing in your little outline, and that's only if you manage to create Deathclaws that can communicate with the player and other NPCs.

3: Are the deathclaws nomadic with no home, and they are looking for one? or have they already set up somewhere? ( a cave, factory, whatever will do... you may want to avoid making it a vault because that's kind of: "Been there, done that." and vaults play a big part in the story and canon, so just adding a random vault might interfere with that a little.)

4: With all that set up you might want to start focusing on a primary Deathclaw character; some people have suggested that they could be led by an advlt Goris, maybe start there. Once you have all the dialogue for him where he explains: all about the pack, the science, their intentions, himself, and maybe gives you the first quest to help them (finding them a home if you choose to have the deathclaws start out as nomads)... then you can move on to some smaller characters and dialogue.

5:Maybe some relations/recognition/integration groundwork stuff. Add little bits of dialogue to random humans about the deathclaws... you know, just "rumors" about some crazy people talking about how some deathclaws saved them from raiders or whatever to start out with. Different reactions depending on the people (ie: Legion would think it's an affront to humanity that NCR probably created as a weapon, Traders/mercs maybe muse about the thought of a deathclaw watching their back instead of tearing into it, etc.)

That's the basic groundwork stuff that I can think of...... Where it goes from there depends on who makes it, and how they want to do it (ie: you or whoever decides to take up the idea).

This is about five times as awesome as the main quest itself. It must be done.

@pwninator

Basically, I've outlined a basic idea in the main post. It'd be something like that, it's going to be one hell of a project though. And you'll likely need writers for this. Poke me over on the Nexus (DuskWulf) and we'll natter a bit.

@TestECull

Really is, eh? The deathclaws must return! There's been too much deathclaw hate in the past, I knew that had to all rebound one of these days, it'll be nice to see them return in New Vegas, since there are so many things in NV to fit their return.

YES YES YES
:bowdown:

it would be awesome

NCR would have to be fully convinced with high speech or an extra quest.
Legion would fully integrate them and they'd have a huge impact on their future, so that'd be difficult.
Yes Man, would be Yes Man.
Mr. House would be absolutely against it, so I'm not sure how you'd get that integrated.

It really would be.


There are some nutjobs in the NCR, but handled correctly, it could definitely be done. I imagine that Hsu would be quite instrumental in making it happen.


I think the Legion would be most interested if they could mind control them somehow, if Caesar's Legion got their hands on some Enclave tech to that end, they might play along. What could be funny with this is if--in the ending--the deathclaws freed themselves and the tide turned against the Legion at their hour of triumph. It'd make for a great 'bad' ending, or even a great 'good' ending, depending on one's perspective.


The most interesting thing here is that I think Yes Man would dig it.

he's a sapient life form looking for independence, he's already got some, which he does his best to hide, and he reveals all in his ending. You find out that he's going to use snippets of code to make himself more assertive. But in all likelihood, it feels on times that he's already begun to do just that. I always got the vibe that Yes Man was really never quite as obsequious and obeisant as he pretended to be, like some of it was programming but that there were loopholes, loopholes big enough to drive a lorry through. But due liking what the Courier was doing, I think he wanted to keep up the pretense, so there wouldn't be any friction there.

Presented with the chance to help a newly sapient race find independence in this region, something that he's working with the Courier to make happen both for New Vegas and himself, I think he'd be very happy. He'd want to help even without his programming making him somewhat obeisant. He'd want to see them given a chance, and perhaps if they're given a chance, then once he's gained full autonomy, he will be given that same chance too.


And that's interesting. Perhaps Mr. House would be with it if he could be convinced that the deathclaws could be sold as a commodity, doing the 'unethical' route, like with the Legion above. Enclave-based mind control devices could be used to betray and enslave them, but it doesn't work, they prove too strong and turn on their masters, making for a 'bad' ending. Or 'good' depending on your perspective.

setting WiPZ up now...
gamesas: http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1156289-wipztalking-deathclaw-mod/#entry16930666
Nexus: http://www.thenexusforums.com/index.php?showtopic=286529&st=

a new idea!i will give death claws PSI BLADES!!!
EDIT:what are psi blades?