POSSIBLEY POLITICAL PENDING TALKIN TO MOD

This is without a doubt going to spawn a politics flamewar.

To answer your question though, if the confederates had won it's possible WW2 would've had a different outcome, yes.

whoa.. borderline political here.. ahhh.. errrr...
lemme get back to you on this one, 'kay?

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btw, great avatar buddy :goodjob:

World. They and the other Axis powers expanded pretty much everywhere they could...Europe, the Pacific, Africa. How long their own alliances would have held up is no one's guess.



I don't think so. They wanted to be separate from the North, and didn't have the resources for offense like that anyways. Had they "won" the war and gained independence from the Union I think the Confederacy would have had a multitude of long lasting problems not only with it's relationship with the North, but also with it's own government and organization. It likely would have turned America into what North and South Korea are today.

Nazis didn't want world domination. They merely wanted to be the world capital, while allowing countries like Japan, UK and Italy exist as they did as long as they knew their place.

But how could those countries exist if they wanted to "cleanse" the world of the non-whites that lived there?

I don't know how long that would have held up though. I mean Hitler broke his non-agression pact with Stalin fairly easily, and it would be no surprise to me if he ended up invading Italy after he was done with Russia and the UK.

Italy, for it's own ends, wanted an Empire again. That's why they tried to invade Ethiopia. While it wasn't "world domination", they certainly wanted a bigger piece of the world. Japan was much the same. They invaded China in an attempt to grab more land for their own Empire.

since the civil war happened first, start with that.
yes, they would have wanted the more developed industrial base of the north.

next, WWII alternate histories yay, my favourite
Hitler wanted space to live.. lebensraum as he put it. Attacking russia was all about the oil in the caucus region. If he had known about the oil in the sudan.. Monty would have never stood a chance.. nor the rest of Africa btw..

So if Hitler could have brought England to it's knees ?to the point of a truce if needed possible, before Pearl harbour, then maybe America might have joined axis forces -maybe. considering enslavement policies that would be in place and public opinion of the time.
After Pearl Harbour, forget it. Nothing could stop the us of siding against the axis then.

I don't think they were that politically motivated for it though. The Confederates wanted separation from the Union, not to go in and take it over.

Had they succeed however I think they would have found out too late just how underdeveloped the south was in terms of industry, and been faced with some serious problems. The confrontations would have gone on forever too, straight west as the country (or countries as it were) expanded.

Hitler didn't care about Jews and others living abroad. As long as Europe was white, he was happy. And as Italy would be controlling Africa, it was their problem, not Germany's.
For one, he didn't want to annihilate all Jews at first. He wanted to deport them into a distant country like Madagascar, but when Germany started losing the war he agreed to exterminate them.

That is true and that is one big reason why the Axis failed. They all fought for their own ends, and didn't care a bit about others (Finland, for one, could have eased Germany's war A LOT if it had invaded Leningrad).
Japan would have indeed collided with Germany, and I personally believe it would have resulted in a very similar situation to the Cold War. Former best friends, now worst enemies. Both nations also had nuclear programs, to make things worse.

Too many things to go wrong with this topic. If another moderator wants to reopen and 'baby sit' it, then fine.