So I was thinking about this today. I know you can block with melee weapons and unarmed. But what if there were actual shields in NV? It would make melee combat more intense (I think). Obviously you could only equip them if you are using a one handed melee weapon. And it would make it easier to defend against ranged shooters (you could block their shots with shields). I was thinking that there could be some kinds of Bullet Proof Riot Shield or some kind of tactical modern military shield and maybe a couple old school medieval looking ones just for fun. Anyone else think this could be cool or interesting for melee cahracters? Or is this a stupid idea? And would you like to see something like this added on in a future DLC?

That's what's missing with the Legion. The key to their success was their battle formations; these depended on an almost impenetrable shield barrier. Fallout's Caesar may have been emulating the Roman army but he forgot their primary tactic.

I know there have been a few times I could have used a riot shield; maybe we'll get one in a DLC.

Post of mine from a long time ago

"I would be more excited to see the legion if they had Shields (Metal ones) painted like Roman http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scutum_(shield), for them to use them to form human walls around settlements and close in on them. Could use them to hit people with. For Ceasers legion to have short swords or even just machetes along with the shields would be cool. Also throwing spears. That is alot more Roman then just having football outfits and calling yourself "Ceaser."

A line of Ceasers Legion with Shields out in front. They throw their spears then charge a mob of Wastelanders. While a few stay back and fire beanbags into the wastelander mob . I would also want them to have lethal weapons. In formation like that is not a smart thing to do when going up against a formidable enemy like BoS or NCR but against wastelanders and slaves it would be cool. I can picture Ceaser's Legion having alot of none lethal weapons. Wastelanders don't make good slaves when you kill them.

Anyways some of that I posted before but if Ceaser's Legion have or do anything like that, I would join them without much thought."

Yup. It seems like a surprising oversight, but I expect it was just a design choice. The research was pretty good.
Roman spears were pole arms, actually, but I imagine you are thinking of javelins, which they did use. The two weapons are sort of merged in the game.

Good idea, thats what the legion is missing ! There is no roman soldier with sword and spear and no shield And i wish the legion used the short sword as the romans did.
And we already have energy weapons and laser weapons so bullet proof shields wouldnt be that bad
I wish the legion used the same tactics with the shield formation and stuff... well i hope they will put some shields in the next fallout game

Yea and what baffles me the most is that this game is made on the same engine as Oblivion and that features shields and I really liked their shield system. So they could be easily implemented if they ever add them in. That's why I posted this here becasue maybe in one of the DLCs down the road they will add them.

It would be pretty cool. And when your melee skill gets to like 75 you can bash with the shield. I would use melee more than.

Shields aren't used in modern combat scenarios for a reason. It's not hard for a rifle bullet to punch through a steel shield.

Agreed, bullets would go through them easy but the Legion are Slavers. They make their money by talking people alive. From the info about the legion they were going up against people without guns.

Legion shows up. Makes a shield wall around a town and move in on it. Using none lethal weapons.

Legion in Mojave are on the War path against NCR, so maybe they set a side their shields but a couple here and there would be nice to see.

Riot Police use Riot Shields for crowd control which are strong. And the military has tactical modern military shields which are bullet proof.

Rifle bullets can still pretty much devastate those. See, what Call of Duty doesn't show you is that those shields tend to get dented pretty nastily and break. Remember that there is a ton of power behind a Rifle Bullet as they go more than twice the speed of sound and impart a lot of force in a small area.

Don't you think the lack of shields is probably because of pistol scopes? Some programming difficulty?

I doubt it. Oblivion could handle it. Since the engine is essentially Oblivion-With-Guns it should handle it fine. It's all there you can attack and block.

I was thinking of consoles. On the xbox the left trigger is zoom. A melee weapon equipped is fine; left trigger is block. But what if, say, a hunting revolver was equipped? Could you use the shield, or zoom? Can't do 2 things at once.

Legion is equiped with manchetes and is not always using guns. So a wooden shield plated with bronze is good enough to kill a human at close range. I havent seen many sniping legions lately
Riot shields are strong enough to take a couple of bullets before its broken.
If they are or going to put shields in fallout they should use LT on xbox/ ps3 left trigger for using the shield. In that case they should give the players the penalty of not be abel to aim a gun and so on while using the shield.

I'm sure it would only be for melee weapons if they do implement shields. And if they do allow shields and pistols you would probably have to choose between using the scope or using the shield (it would be pretty hard to use a scope while holding a shield in real life).

Yeah, something like that. I was mostly concerned about bugs. Last week, no kidding, my Trail Carbine was chucking grenades. Adding shields, though I support the idea, seems like asking for trouble.

What, that's not normal?
:ahhh:

i doubt the engine would be able to handle it (its old, remember?) i think that it would work intensly with the new elder scrolls engine, as im assuming that FO4 will be made using it

yea but Oblivion had shields and it is the same engine as Oblivion.

Heh legion circle town with shields, 2 crazy wastelander walks up with a minigun with armor piercing rounds and and a heavy incinerator waste them all

but there aren't a lot of ''good'' one-handed melee weapons in the game, but this would probably also work with one-handed Unarmed weapons!

How about the HALO-like shild? I currently start to make this mod and still WIP, and it can actually block bullets but now just need to make the texture and animation right. Hope this doesn'y look too bad....

[img]http://www.newvegasnexus.com/imageshare/images/2348378-1297494910.jpg[/img]
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8keNXg3keGM[/media]

As the reference, HALO shield in HALO3 trailer
[media]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z36WDj2PcU[/media]

Ive been thinking that sense I first picked up N.V. Tough they wouldnt be able to stop most types of rifles/pistols, some of them could be made reflective, causing laser beams to bounce back twoard the agressor. And, they would make melee combat sooooo much more satysfying. The Great Khans could have some sort of tribal looking shield, the BoS could use a power shield, NCR riot shield ans so on.