sorry new to this site, however i dont know if people have realized that all of the weapons displayed on the table and shelf at the van graff (SILVER RUSH) can be stolen without all of the guards noticing. basically go up to the item which ever you prefer click to grab it then put it in the right corner of the room by the 4 laser rifles. once you place it there crouch to make sure your hidden and grab that svcker...repeat repeat and repeat eventually they will have nothing on the shelves. i personally killed em...all of em

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QY8MjsnC_g&feature=player_embedded

ha right on sweet vid didnt even think of the bucket....but when i did it i didnt have there back door unlocked so maybe thats why lol...either way easy access

I'm lazy, so I used a stealthboy.

You should have waited. There are at least two quests I know of that would have given XP for killing the VanGrafs.

i figured as much ill just do it on the replay....