PC or 360

Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:18 pm

So now that things have changed a little, I find myself again trying to decide if I actually want to get the 360 or the PC version. I've got a machine that should be able to handle FNV on close to max settings, bettering the graphics of the 360 version for sure. I had previously decided on the PC version by a VERY narrow margin and the current events have me reexamining my situation.

I personally liked the 360 controller for playing fallout. It was, naturally, not quite as good for lined up shots, but in my opinion it made menu navigation and VATS a lot more pleasant. I'm told that the 360 controller should work fully with the PC version so if push comes to shove that seems to be a non-issue.

Personally, I'm not sure how much the DLC weighs in for me. If I knew further back I would have had time to consider it carefully and come to a conclusion based on significant forethought. I know people have mixed feelings about it but I REALLY enjoyed the first 3 DLCs for FO3 when they came out. Maybe part of it though is that Anchorage added something that I thought the game could have stood to use all along (the gauss). FNV seems more "complete" right off the bat in that department.

When it comes to other mods, I'm not a huge fan anyway. I get that some people love the stuff, and I don't mind tinkering around with it (I got a PC version of FO3 on sale for cheap well after launch and ran some mods with it for fun), but for me it's mainly about the main game, and the "official" storyline.

Also, I'm wondering what people have found in terms of stability/glitches/crashing in both versions.

I guess I'm just wondering what other people's opinions on the subject. And please, don't make this into a DLC thing ,whether it's good, bad, right, or wrong and all that. What's done is done, it doesn't matter. I'd like to get some actual opinions from people and not just have the thread locked on me because it turns into that, people's opinions on the game as a whole from one platform to the other. I recognize that ultimately it's a personal decision based on my own preferences, and I have no doubt that no matter which way I go I'll suffer buyer's remorse because I 'm just that kind of person, so I'm just trying to get the macro view from other people on this issue.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:22 am

Well what do you want? Do you want mods? If so then PC. How about sitting on the couch playing. Is your PC hooked up to your TV? If not then 360.

All I can speak for myself, but I prefer the 360 since I just put disk in and play. There are so many people having trouble with Steam. So many people having problems tweaking their computer to get this to run. You say, you have a computer that should play this. You don't sound confident in that. I say 360. Who cares about mods or jaw dropping graphics. It's all about game play. Yeah graphics are nice but after what 12 hours of playing are you going to care about graphics then?

So if you do not want mods, the 360 is the way to go.
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:02 pm

Well what do you want? Do you want mods? If so then PC. How about sitting on the couch playing. Is your PC hooked up to your TV? If not then 360.

All I can speak for myself, but I prefer the 360 since I just put disk in and play. There are so many people having trouble with Steam. So many people having problems tweaking their computer to get this to run. You say, you have a computer that should play this. You don't sound confident in that. I say 360. Who cares about mods or jaw dropping graphics. It's all about game play. Yeah graphics are nice but after what 12 hours of playing are you going to care about graphics then?

So if you do not want mods, the 360 is the way to go.


Yeah but 360 svcks so get PC it's way better.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 6:45 am

Well what do you want? Do you want mods? If so then PC. How about sitting on the couch playing. Is your PC hooked up to your TV? If not then 360.

All I can speak for myself, but I prefer the 360 since I just put disk in and play. There are so many people having trouble with Steam. So many people having problems tweaking their computer to get this to run. You say, you have a computer that should play this. You don't sound confident in that. I say 360. Who cares about mods or jaw dropping graphics. It's all about game play. Yeah graphics are nice but after what 12 hours of playing are you going to care about graphics then?

So if you do not want mods, the 360 is the way to go.



Hardware wise, my PC can definitely play this. Software, that's where I'm concerned. Like you've said, it's not surprising that there are compatibility issues with steam not working, some of which are probably associated with windows, or other programs, antivirus, registry, 64 vs 32 bit, etc. I could have a computer that has 5x the processing and graphics power needed for max settings and it won't matter if the game crashes or screws my save data. I have both PC and 360 fallout 3 (got PC for about 20 bucks on sale less than 8 months ago, and had 360 since release), and yeah, I was happy with the 360 graphics. The PC ones are "better" and they're nice eye candy but I don't mind too much.

If I ever decide to mod it will probably be after I've completed a playthrough and I do a second one, at which point most stability and compatibility issues will be fixed anyway, so I think you're right. I'll probably wind up going with the 360 version.


yaik7a.... that's the exact kind of unuseful feedback I'm -not- looking for...
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 9:42 pm

Also, I'm wondering what people have found in terms of stability/glitches/crashing in both versions.

Playing the PC version for 7 hours now. Only one bug or glitch seen so far - a scorpion enemy got caught on the ground and became invincible. I just walked away and everything was fine.

3 Crashes to desktop so far. 1 was random while I was out in the wastes. The other happened twice at the same place, when I tried to talk to the NCR soldier guarding the bridge in the middle of Primm. I just avoided him and kept playing. All 3 crashes seem to be associated with audio files, like the game couldn't find the file it was looking for and crashed. The first time, in the wastes, I was listening to the radio and the DJ announced he was going to give the news. There was a pause, then a long silence, and the game crashed. When I reloaded (I had saved just 30 seconds earlier) the DJ announced the news and read it just fine with no problems.

The glitches and bugs sound worse on the 360 version. At least on PC you have the dev console to fix things if you need to.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 11:01 am

Gotta agree with Davor here with one caveat. The nice thing about mods is someone will eventually redo the graphic textures making them even better, though most likely at the expense of machine horsepower. Perfect example is the Stalker series. The first game, Shadow of Chernobyl was released in 2007. Recent graphics mods have made the game even more stunning. You won't get that on a console. And it does make a difference to some.
Me, I'm a PC gamer. Don't even own a console, unless you count the Wii and the only thing I use that for is drunk bowling with my friends. ;)
I upgrade my rig about once a year so running new games at high settings isn't a problem with me. I also really like mods so that is a big factor. And I like the freedom of being able to tinker with my system without having to worry about the warranty being voided and being banned off a nameyourconsole account. As far as the DLC goes, I'm pretty confident it will be released for the other platforms eventually.

You won't hear me bash the consoles though, other than what I've said above. Each to his own. My own just happens to be a PC.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:50 pm

Honestly? NVGECK is released in a few hours. There's already a fix for mouse acceleration issues on New Vegas Nexus. The modding community seems to be ready and waiting.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:59 am

While the price for the 360 will be about a year before a price drop, there will be a price drop in the PC. So you can play on the 360 now, like me, and then when the price is cheaper, then get it when you are ready for mods. Then as you said, hopefully all the bugs will be gone, and there will be some great mods to play with then.

I also agree with what someone else has said. Playing on the 360, if there is no fix we are screwed then, like Oblivion PS3 version vampire bug. But that is what we live with. There are trade offs no matter what you prefer. So it all depends on the individual. For me, not messing with settings and tweaking is a good trade off, and hopefully I do not encounter the "Oblvion PS3 vampire bug" as an example.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 4:55 am

Thanks for all the input so far. As I'm a fickle [censored], I'll probably bounce back and fourth 5 or 6 more times before I settle. I have CEs for each, and I'm going to just unload whichever one I don't keep, probably. I do know that I had almost zero problems with FO3 on 360, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll also be one of the lucky ones here.

If it helps, here's my PC specs:

E8500 OC'd to 4ghz
8GB DDR2
ATI Radeon HD 4870
Ability to output to my 32" 720p TV ( what I would be playing 360 on also) or my 24" 1920x1200 monitor.

The bugs I've been hearing about have me a bit skiddish, so that definitely makes the availability of the console look attractive. I'm just curious though, does anyone know if the PC version has steam achievements, and whether or not it requires a constant connection (could be play in steam's offline mode if I don't use cloud saves).

Honestly, I'm lucky right now, that I can afford to maybe hold onto both, but it feels kind of (financially) irresponsible to do that, and at the very least I should probably swap one of the collector's editions for a reg.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 2:29 am

Thanks for all the input so far. As I'm a fickle [censored], I'll probably bounce back and fourth 5 or 6 more times before I settle. I have CEs for each, and I'm going to just unload whichever one I don't keep, probably. I do know that I had almost zero problems with FO3 on 360, but that doesn't necessarily mean I'll also be one of the lucky ones here.

If it helps, here's my PC specs:

E8500 OC'd to 4ghz
8GB DDR2
ATI Radeon HD 4870
Ability to output to my 32" 720p TV ( what I would be playing 360 on also) or my 24" 1920x1200 monitor.

Damn, now I see why you would change back and forth lol. Well it comes down to, do you want to do any troubleshooting. You can always go to PC later. Go to the PC troubleshooting section and read there, to see if you can be ok with these problems or not.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:08 am

I would Say Pc For Mod's And Cant You connect a Xbox 360 controler to Your Pc?
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Post » Tue Mar 08, 2011 10:01 pm

Damn, now I see why you would change back and forth lol. Well it comes down to, do you want to do any troubleshooting. You can always go to PC later. Go to the PC troubleshooting section and read there, to see if you can be ok with these problems or not.

Yeah. It also doesn't help that I'm a naturally indecisive purpose. Truth be told, unless I suffer crippling glitches that make it unplayable on either system, I'll probably wind up more or less happy no matter what I chose, and I'll also go through a period of buyer's remorse no matter which I go with. I think you're right though about the notion that PC will go down in price faster than 360. If it does prove to be just plain unplayable, I also stand a chance at returning it for the 360. They don't have to take it but sometimes they still do if it's a known issue. If I get PC and find something wrong with it my chances of a successful return for refund once I've opened it are pretty much 0%.



I would Say Pc For Mod's And Cant You connect a Xbox 360 controler to Your Pc?

yes, I can, but I've had mixed results with that in thepast. Since this is games for windows certified, I expect it to be better than ones that just register the controller as a generic gamepad, but you never know.


And gain, thanks all you guys for taking the time to legitimately reply and entertain my paranoia instead of just telling me to shut my hole and pick one.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 3:17 am

I have both xbox360 and pc, and im defo getting this for pc. Mods + console controle are the biggest reasons why.
Oh and the ability to quicksave (F5) + quickload (F9) saved my ass in fallout 3. dunno if you can do this with xbox 360, but its so much more convenient with the pc. And it literally takes less than a second to quick load/save. so pc is the way to go imo.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 10:05 am

I would Say Pc For Mod's And Cant You connect a Xbox 360 controler to Your Pc?


You could, but for the love of GOD why would you want to?!?!?!

And yes, I'm kidding, well kind of. ;)

Merc Stealth keyboard and G9 mouse beats a gamepad any day.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:14 am

On the PC, the game will craploads of new content thanks to mod support, also if there's a gamebreaking bug which will take too long for Obsidian to fix PC will have unofficial patches, on the other hand XBox 360 is extremely convenient for some people.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 1:12 am

PC. mods + gfx + less load times + less glitches + no need for vats (considering you are halfway decent w/ mouse aiming)
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 9:28 am

The big problem is I really don't care a lot about mod support. I don't like messing with my games too much. With mods and console commands it is too tempting to start manipulating things out of convenience instead of fun. I get that not everyone shares that point of view, but I definitely won't be modding anything until I've completed at least one solid playthrough. I love shooters but one of the reasons I liked FO3 so much is that it gave me a break from that. They could have dumped VATS when they moved to a 3d first/third person environment but they kept it, and I think it gives Fallout that RPG charm that makes it different from just another shooter. There are also always perks specifically geared towards vats and so forth. My opinion on games has always been that a keyboard/mouse is better for firs person shooting, but a console controller is better for enviornmental and menu interaction like in an RPG. The anolog nature of the movement just feels more fluid, so yes, even on a PC I would probably use a controller at least some of the time.
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Post » Wed Mar 09, 2011 12:31 am

The big problem is I really don't care a lot about mod support. I don't like messing with my games too much. With mods and console commands it is too tempting to start manipulating things out of convenience instead of fun. I get that not everyone shares that point of view, but I definitely won't be modding anything until I've completed at least one solid playthrough. I love shooters but one of the reasons I liked FO3 so much is that it gave me a break from that. They could have dumped VATS when they moved to a 3d first/third person environment but they kept it, and I think it gives Fallout that RPG charm that makes it different from just another shooter. There are also always perks specifically geared towards vats and so forth. My opinion on games has always been that a keyboard/mouse is better for firs person shooting, but a console controller is better for enviornmental and menu interaction like in an RPG. The anolog nature of the movement just feels more fluid, so yes, even on a PC I would probably use a controller at least some of the time.


I get ya, And I agree about playing through a game before searching for mods as I do the same. I played FO3 vanilla until after my 4th or so playthrough.
Can't say I agree about a gamepad though, no matter what I am playing. Most of that has to do with never having any real time to get used to one. Being able to hit a key or two and mousing the cursor to my choice is 10 times as fast as trying to hit L then R then Up twice to scrollpad around. Been KB/mousing it for far too long and it's whats natural for me. Especially with my KB and mouse combo, being able to remap keys to what I want instead of having to learn a combo on a pad.
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