Any chance of getting a real Change Log? : Fallout: New Vegas

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:26 am

What are the chances of us getting a real Change Log for today's patch? What we got is seriously vague. Might as well just have said "Fixed stuff."
I greatly appreciate Beth/Obsidian's efforts to patch the game up to where it should have been at release, but it would be nice to know what was really fixed.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:51 am

I'm currently filtering a difference plugin ('cleaned' 1.2.0.314 vs. 1.2.0.285) which will only contain new and edited forms. Viewing it in FNVEdit should help track down every last change easily. Takes a few hours to filter/clean, but I'll link it here when it's done.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:20 am

I'm currently filtering a difference plugin ('cleaned' 1.2.0.314 vs. 1.2.0.285 vs. old) which will only contain new and edited forms. Viewing it in FNVEdit should help track down every last change easily. Takes a few hours to filter/clean, but I'll link it here when it's done.

Thanks!

I've got a large grip of notes I'm building (particularly the weapons changes) but I think that would be a much better way to go about things.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 2:52 am

For starters, it apperas there are two duplicate GRUPs:

[00:06] Background Loader: [FalloutNV_New.ESM] Warning: File contains duplicated top level group: GRUP Top "AMEF"[00:06] Background Loader: [FalloutNV_New.ESM] Merged 3 record from duplicated group: GRUP Top "AMEF"[00:06] Background Loader: [FalloutNV_New.ESM] Warning: File contains duplicated top level group: GRUP Top "RCPE"[00:06] Background Loader: [FalloutNV_New.ESM] Merged 1 record from duplicated group: GRUP Top "RCPE"

FNVEdit merges the duplicates together and creates a new FalloutNV.ESM (should not harm anything)

New and/or duplicate forms/refs:

Spoiler

[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B79A] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [FACT:0017B79A] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B799] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [FACT:0017B799] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B79B] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [MGEF:0017B79B] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A5] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B7A5] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A4] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B7A4] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A3] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B7A3] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A2] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B7A2] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A1] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B7A1] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A0] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B7A0] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B79F] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B79F] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B79E] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B79E] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B79D] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B79D] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B79C] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SCPT:0017B79C] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A6] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [SPEL:0017B7A6] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A9] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [ACTI:0017B7A9] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A8] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [ACTI:0017B7A8] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7A7] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [ACTI:0017B7A7] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7B5] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7B5] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7B4] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7B4] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7B3] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7B3] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7B2] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7B2] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [ACTI:0017B7B1] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7B1] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [SCPT:0017B7B0] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7B0] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [SCPT:0017B7AF] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7AF] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7AE] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7AE] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background Loader: Warning: Record [REFR:0017B7AD] in file FalloutNV.ESM is being overridden by record [LVLI:0017B7AD] in file FalloutNV_New.esp.[00:08] Background 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» Mon Apr 25, 2011 12:24 am

Lucky Shades is new, looks like another import from Fallout 3 (the other being the All-Purpose Science Suit though even that was not actually used in Fallout 3).

Not sure how to go about fixing the NPC weapon spawns yet. Wonder if that is planned for a quick fix on their end or if it's worth modding.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 4:56 am

I can answer this. Nope I asked Jason Bergmanin in private and this is all they are going to provide.

I can't provide any proof so you'll just have to take my word for it, or not.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 3:27 am

I can answer this. Nope.

Facetious answers aside, my question was pretty much rhetorical. But it would have been nice, anyway.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:56 am

Facetious answers aside, my question was pretty much rhetorical.

But it would have been nice, anyway.

Then use [/rhetorical] or something instead of wasting my time and effort, jeez. [/facetiousness] <---See, see what I did there?

Indeed.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 5:20 am

By the end of the week the .. life challenged amoung us will have compiled a list of changes so detailed even sawyer wont know as much as we do about the patch.

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 7:40 am

I can answer this. Nope I asked Jason Bergmanin in private and this is all they are going to provide.

I can't provide any proof so you'll just have to take my word for it, or not.

P.S.

Meaning not from Bethesda. Sorry, forgot that part earlier.

The effort required on their part to provide a more detailed change log is minuscule. I bet it would take no more than an hour or two to generate a comprehensive list based on the information JustinOther provided (Edit: I just realized that his list isn't comprehensive; it doesn't list script additions or changes in dialogue).

» Mon Apr 25, 2011 1:53 am

I agree with the OP. The list of "fixes" don't say much other than they fixed something. I want to know if they fixed any dialogue bugs, or the crashing issue etc.

» Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:59 pm

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2zjrq2n4dc35g69

The above is a v1.2.0.314 FalloutNV.ESM filtered and 'cleaned' by FNVEdit against a v1.2.0.285 FalloutNV.ESM, so it bears only the new/altered records.