Well, I was doing Raul's unmarked quest while I only have loyal left to talk to, and to my luck, hes not in his cabin or in the hangar, and i read that he could get stuck in black mountain if you repair tabitha's robot (and i did....) so i remembered to finish sunshine boogie to find out exactly where loyal is, and to my luck, hes planted at the base of one of the satellites in black mountain...and b4 someone says to use console commands, im on an xbox...so is there a way to work around this? or will we just have to hope for a patch that helps this?

I'd say reload, thats all I can really say.

ugh, too far to reload now....

That's a pretty game breaking bug, actually, because Loyal is needed for the main quest as well. I know you'll need access to him for the NCR and Legion paths anyway. I'm not sure about the other two.

its ok though, because ive already complete Volare and have been idolized by them, but i need him becuase of raul and sunshine boogie, and that still ticks me off

Good deal. You dodged a bullet there.

luckily, but still, will this possibly be one of the things they put in the next patch? cus yea like u said, this is kinda a big deal

FO3 was never patched to bring back lost NPCs, was it? (Walter, for example, who was notorious for committing suicide.) I suppose if it's someone critical to the main story, maybe: but I wouldn't hold your breath.