PS3 vs. XBOX 360 - Which'll have the better version?

Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:05 pm

I remember reading somewhere a while ago that they were running RAGE at 60 FPS on the 360, but having a tough time getting it at 30 FPS on the PS3. Now that might have been a while ago, probably pretty early in development? Anyway, I haven't heard anything new about it, so no news = good news? I have both systems but having it on the PS3 with free internet would be sweet. Anyone know?

I have it pre-ordered for the 360 just as a precaution, but maybe I'll switch the order to PS3.

Also, vote on whichever applies to you on the poll above!
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Chloe Botham
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 1:03 am

It has long been confirmed that the 3 versions and run at 60 fps.

Was also confirmed that the PS3 version and Xbox 360 runs at 60 fps at 1280x720. No resizing.

The information you enter is already 2 years ago.
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Emma-Jane Merrin
 
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 5:55 am

It'll be about the same. I have ps3 and I always hate when people say xbox looks sooo much better. They look the same to me. I've heard rage runs really really nice on the ps3. Also on the xbox. The only thing that scares me about the ps3 is bugs. I'll admit we have been plagued with bugs on some games but over all the ps3 is great. Coming from IDS I think we should be fine. Anyway the game is gonna looks amazing on anything.

This thread may start a war. Lol
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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:42 pm

You are so right METALPUNKS!

My biggest dilemma between choosing ps3 or 360 isn't by which hardware is better but the subtle difference between them.

The 360 can install all of it, but it has breaks in the action (loading disks kinda bothered me on Mass Effect 2).
The Ps3 has no breaks but no full install either, but a big install (8 Gb if I remember correctly).

While the 360 may have better loading times once fully installed, I don't mind the minimal extra wait IF there is one on the Ps3. (Yes, I'm so lazy that I'd rather wait and do nothing then change disks).
but the questions I have are...
1. If you're playing on the 360 and you happen to wander to a place where you should only be later in the game (if it's possible), will you have to switch disks, or do all of the disks have the entire "world" loaded on them, just the different quests and dialogue for each portion of the game?

2. This question is more of a DLC one but... Seeing as Bethesda is the parent company, will the Ps3 players get any DLC delayed due to Microsoft's stupid bully tactics like Fallout did? *Edit* I'm not saying it's Bethesda's fault, I'm saying that I Remember what happened with other games.

The final question is probably more of a really devoted fan war starter so I'm hesitant to ask (but let's try to keep this civil and mature).

3. Since the 360 can fully install and the Ps3 has a partial install, and the Ps3 has a slower disk reading speed then the 360, is there potential for more pop-in on the Ps3?

About #3 I heard that id is using most of the cores on the Ps3 to handle the textures. Textures are my BIG thing (Couldn't play dragon age 1 happily because of it).
So do you think the extra/dedicated processing power on the Ps3 will make up for the slow read speeds?

I'm telling you all, I want the Ps3 version so much more because of the one disk... I just don't wanna sacrifice textures.
P.s. I'm sorry if I started the war!
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 2:21 am

Its already been stated by the devs and Gstaff that the game was designed to run the same on all the platforms, of course pc player will be able to tweak it and gett better performance but the ps3 and 360 will be virtually identical as its been with nearly every cross platform game since they rarely take advantage of each systems different strengths.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 12:40 pm

The PC version should be the best regarding image quality on a decent machine. Higher res, better texture quality (perhaps), better anti-aliasing. However, performance wise I think the consoles will appear to play just as smooth at 60FPS. It's very hard, almost impossible as far as I am concerned, to notice framerates above a solid 60FPS.

Regarding the consoles... Isn't it still too early to tell? Has it been confirmed that the PS3 doesn't have an optional full install? If it doesn't (I hope it does - man, it's my storage space, right?), I think the 360 full install version will be marginally better than the PS3's partial install, but only regarding the texture streaming (pop-up). Maybe a PS3 with a SSD hard drive would make a difference? :) I think the differences will be fairly negligable, and I trust id to do their utmost to ensure parity across the platforms. I'll be interested to see the Eurogamer's Digital Foundry Face-Off, which is bound to be done for Rage.

To conclude - I think they'll be close enough for it really not to matter. So I didn't vote!
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 4:20 am

The console's responsiveness is handled by the outdated firmware and integrated hardware - no way how ID optimizes their game. ID software has been pressuring a lot of vendors and manufacturers to fix their crappy problems (nvidia , amd , intel , microsoft)


Performance and graphical wise console version cannot be better than PC in any way you look at it. If people have decent pc there is no reason to buy on console stating "oh i have my friends there and xlive and stuffz coolz omg lolz" --- so what ... are you married with them ?

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Post » Wed Sep 14, 2011 11:56 pm

The PC version should be the best regarding image quality on a decent machine. Higher res, better texture quality (perhaps), better anti-aliasing. However, performance wise I think the consoles will appear to play just as smooth at 60FPS. It's very hard, almost impossible as far as I am concerned, to notice framerates above a solid 60FPS.

Regarding the consoles... Isn't it still too early to tell? Has it been confirmed that the PS3 doesn't have an optional full install? If it doesn't (I hope it does - man, it's my storage space, right?), I think the 360 full install version will be marginally better than the PS3's partial install, but only regarding the texture streaming (pop-up). Maybe a PS3 with a SSD hard drive would make a difference? :) I think the differences will be fairly negligable, and I trust id to do their utmost to ensure parity across the platforms. I'll be interested to see the Eurogamer's Digital Foundry Face-Off, which is bound to be done for Rage.

To conclude - I think they'll be close enough for it really not to matter. So I didn't vote!


there is no anti-aliasing on consoles.


everything technical too early about consoles - so no way to get into arguments.


If you ask me - PS3 is the way to go but only if Sony will allow full install.
First of all you don't have disk swap.
Second you don't have HDD validation enforcement (which is a huge ripoff at 360) PS3 HDDs for same prices as for PCs
Third you actually have ability to use SDD for PS3 - 360 doesn't have velociraptors and SSDs for sale.


Essentially 360 "microsoft" branded HDDs are re-brands from Seagate and Western digital , the same thing - but they stick a different firmware on and set the price 300% higher - pure and clean ripoff.


So in the end even if 360 allows full install - many people could not use it - the game uses 22 GB so not even the minimal HDD is enough. And if you could use SSD for PS3 and be able to install there then i think the problem of blurry textures when in action could be negated or significantly diminished.



But there's always ways to do what you want - using your own HDD for x360 needs some expertiese - you need to flash the firmware - but this is not an easy process you can ruin the HDD if you're not following rules.
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Post » Thu Sep 15, 2011 9:15 am

Console wars thread...I like....and whether you think this is a consoles war thread or not...it is.

The secret in the 360 is the new graphics cards Microsoft has been installing and updating over the last year or two. Until Dead Space 2, released Jan. 25th of this year, my games on PS3 looked better. I bought copies of Dead space 2 for 360 and PS3 on a HDPlasma TV 52 inch - 360 looks better. It looks "darker" on PS3 with not as much definition.

Rage was demoed on the 360 at E-3 in 2010 and there is video on youtube that shows the demo. Kevin Perreria from G4 says something to the effect that he can't believe this is running on a 360.

In the end, the human eye can only receive so much of the color spectrum and I doubt Rage will look bad on any system. but, if you are really into gaming and want the full experience, best thing to have is a BEAST graphics card with a BEAST television, and no BEAST is not a brand name...just using it as a descriptive word.

One thing alot of people overlook when discussing graphics is how video game graphics aren't necessarily good, they are "different". Deus Ex is touted as having amazing graphics, but in reality it is the gold and black theme found throughout the entire game that looks "different" and catches people's eye. We should all stop saying that the graphics were amazing and start saying that they are "different" or unique". If you look up in the sky while playing Deus Ex - the sky is effing pixilated...and looks terrible...yet people are tweeting the developers that the graphics look amazing...lol

Another tid-bit is the artistry, which is huge! The shape of the faces, the textures of the landscape, the detail in the weapons. All that stuff comes from the artists, rendering garbage art will result in garbage graphics or unappealing. It really all boils down to the art team.

Whoever the artist was for the character's faces in Brink should stick to drawing ogres and trolls...those chins and noses looked bizarre!
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