Bethesda or who the heck runs the marketing - you might do something about it - tell them into their FACES - "BETHESDA IS NOT DEVELOPING RAGE - IT's NOT AN RPG - IT'S MADE BY THE CREATORS OF FPS GENRE - ID SOFTWARE" ( the last part will raise dust like hot cakes )


Some guys even thought RAGE was a SEQUEL to Brink LMAO


Seriously - BIG win if you put "Made by the creators of FPS genre" ... and show the sign long enough so those kids can read it - and now it will [censored] stay in their heads.



Rage Trailer: bla bla this and that about bethesda ... and then when it get's intense prior to the end putting this sign on in the climix of the video will make some epic moments guaranteed



One studio with a game that comes in the middle of this console-port spamfest to wreak the whole industry by surprise .. and one studio with a privilege to put "Made by the creators of FPS genre" - this can put people OFF BF3 MW3 and GOW3 directly into rage - rage has stiff competition and it's time to use what ID Software always was shy to tell it about on massive scale.

Now is the time to use ID Software's legacy into advantage in this future time. You have every priviliege to put that sign on - for cry sake use it.

maybe bethesda thinks its a good thing..id has been off the map a bit and a lot of younger gamers dont even know who id is..im not saying i agree if that is the case...just thinking out loud..

I don't want Bethesda to behave like the middle-man , I want to be able to speak to ID Software directly , so far seems tough to get any info out of them at all.


I mean the guys on forums can't even repeat or strengthen what it was already said in interviews.

Seriously why doesn't somebody respond and explain what's going on.


I just found out now how modding tools are going to be release - in some random old tim willits interview. When you buy the game it's x32 - you have to log into steam to download x64 executables - then you can download modding tools SDK.

First off....blame Id - they waited 7 years to put out a new IP and the last Quake game svcked - so this generation of gamers doesn't really know how much Id has impacted gaming. On the other hand, Id sat back and let the Infinity Wards and Bungies of the industry take over...so they have nobody to blame but themselves.

Second, you have friends that are just un-informed gamers. So do I...alot of my friends didn't even have Rage on their radar, what with GOW3, BF3 and MW3 and Skyrim coming out - what exactly is Rage? Putting versus mode MP in Rage and properly demoed - would have helped and an early release date in June or July would have helped - they just bungled the whole thing.

I was warning Id about this a year ago - now you have forum posts like this - and it makes total sense...for the right salary - Id, you can hire me to replace your marketing team. Just sayin...

let's get some ideas rolling about written stuffs

Parts are CUTS when written text appears.

IDEA 1:
Trailer part 1: introduce bethesda
part 2: "made by"
part 3: "the creators"
part 4: "of FPS genre"
part 5: "- ID Software"

(this one was already done with the TV spot - and these ones are difficult to follow/coherency)

IDEA2: ( /n indicates new line)
Trailer cut 1: intro bethesda
trailer end: "Made By /n ID Software /n The creators of FPS genre"


I won't go into more ideas since i think IDEA2 is quite good in my opinion: for some more epic moment it should slowly appear PROGRESSIVELY first line first , second line second and then third line last.


OMG i got a better idea just came up:


IDEA3:

Trailer first cut: "Published by Bethesda"
gameplay (whatever)
2. cut: background and text appearing FIRST line "Developed by"
....
3. cut same background with the first line already there and second line slowly appearing " ID software"
....
... intense
4. cut same ... with both lines already there and third line appearing in epic fashion " --- *** The creators of FPS genre *** ---"
... spectacular end ...
... finish with website text or whatever

PURE WIN !!! imo

Don't hire NX1000, id - there will be friction and fireworks!

I agree, id have been quiet for too long. It reminds me of Dre with his 2001 album. 'Motherf**kers forgot about Dre'. Well, yeah, that'll teach you for taking so long to release new material (but it was worth the wait!).

However, the Summer release thing I disagree with. I think Summer felt less crowded than October as a release window, and Rage's sales will suffer due to the huge amount of big games coming out SEP - NOV. Is that why you think it would have been better to release then, or do you think they have taken too long and peoples interest is waning?

EDIT: the trailers say 'From the creators of Doom and Quake'. It might be beneficial to add something like 'The inventors of the FPS'. However, most of the issue is idiots not understanding the roles of a developer and a publisher. I think the trailers are pretty clear already.

Yeah, ALOT of peeps have no idea what the difference between publishers and developers are. I remember when Brink was about to come out and when I told my Fallout 3-loving buddy to check it out, He just about creamed himself talking about how much he worshipped Bethesda. I didn't clarify things for him mainly because I just needed people to play with.