Originally it was stated that during an E3 interview they confirmed a new game plus function starting the game over with all your gadgets, upgrades, weapons, and schematics.

Some people have gotten the game early, and they are saying this is not true, so whats going on cause for my that's a real deal breaker, and I like to know before tonight. Can anyone from the rage team or something confirm the truth here?

It's an FPS, how is no New Game+ a deal breaker? I'd understand if it was an RPG or summat... but really? :confused:

Plus stop, Im sick of hearing that response, first off this isn't 2 decades ago, games have evolved, and when games 3-4 gens ago have more functions then games of today it's sad, secondly, this game has a number of functions that works towards a new game plus, more and more games are adding these functions, and it's just weak not to have them now adays, it's almost needs to be a standard with RPG elements.

So when I can spend 60 on game that has all this and more then this game, and this other option has PLUS NG+ and RPG elements and gives me 100+ hours of gameplay for the same price, and is just as fun, SO YEAH" REALLY", sorry I don't like spending 60 bucks on 1 time playthrough game, that will be beaten in like the time of a rent and then just collect dust afterwards.

Not when I can rent for 3 bucks for 5 days and get the same full experience. so please stop with those responses. It just shows how wiling you are to not want a better game, and take the crap that is given.

I'm sorry I don't understand at least half of what you're saying - you want to basically start a "new game" with all your weapons, mods, etc.?

Again, sorry but you're saying this isn't 20 years ago and games have evolved?.. what, so that you can put in a /godmode and sprint through the game, then call it stupid and cheesy? (IDKFA)

When Doom3 came out, it was ripped on for being so "dark" so "claustrophobic" and so 'un-id', imo Doom3 was untouchable, even 7 years later I have more fun playing Doom3 than most any other game, so please explain why you're so upset? :headscratch:

really depends on what you think "a better game" is.. now, dont it?

First off, I wasn't bashing your opinion, I was respecting yours, please respect mine.

The timeframe doesn't matter, some things are more prevelant in game forms than others.

All it boils down to is that you aren't getting what you want, so you're willing to throw a childish temper tantrum to get it.
Well guess what? That's not the way to go about it.

Lastly, in YOUR OPINION that makes a better game. Magical word isn't it, OPINION? Gives people the right to think what they want even if they're a complete [censored] hat in the way they go about it. Just like i9n my OPINION gameplay and story makes a better game, not some arbitrary feature that makes your next playthrough easier.

I do know what makes a better game, in my opinion, and just because it differs from yours doesn't mean you can blatantly bash it.

In a nutshell: Stop with the childish attitude, all throwing a temper tantrum does is get you a time out, never gets you want you want unless you suffer from a case of bad parenting.

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PS - Welcome to the forums, I expect your stay will be a short one if you keep this attitude up.

Man, and to think that for awhile I considered working in the videogame industry as my career, I'm glad I didn't, too many gamers are whiny little bit^&%. Oh no new game+! Game breaker! LOL Seriously???

I'm surprised I'm still studying the profession.

I hope that in the future, you don't browse your own company's forums...save yourself the headaches.

Well if this is any indication, I'll just leave it to PR. Don't think I'd handle my work getting [censored] on cause it does or doesn't have things people dont want. :laugh:

You know I was hoping for some more mature responses, yet you call mine childish temper tantrum, you say you "Respected my opinion", your response is hardly a respectable, it's the same mindset that most narrow minded gamers have now, you say respect your opinion, when you barely respected mine in general, you in general dissed the idea right away. You didn't really provide a response that was useful or answered my question, it is neither respectful nor helpful. I'm upset cause I can't get any other response other then this same one you gave already, it's pointless a waste of time and annoying, if you don't like what I have to say and can't help me get a answer, then please DON'T POST. You are just creating more issues like this.

Second, you miss the point this is hardly about an opinion on a better game, you seem to think putting in a function that games have had for 3 gens is an opinion it's not, this is hardly something that should be like a new and exciting feature at this point, but now adays it can be a deal breaker, it can make a game that only 8 hours be 40 hours, it an function that is OPTIONAL, you don't have to use it for those who don't but for those others who want it we get the "Oh Well to bad". it's hardly a fair mindset, and finally yea, games are evolving so yes, instead of looking all pretty as much as the next person with a 2 IQ likes and can watch for hours on end and think the pretty stump 5 miles in the distance is AWESOME, I really don't care, wanting moe options and functions and better standards in a game being an opinion? Sorry but that's just sad.

If you LIKE to start from scratch and re earn everything you already earn and have the same exact experience then you go right ahead, personally, If I play thru a game once and already earned all this stuff, I personally don't wanna do it all over again.

Let's try a Real Life Example, you have a job and you become a president, you get this huge pay roll, you have all these bonuses, you then move to to a different branch in like another state, same job, same business, and start a business their, but now you have to start as a basic employee, all over again with a minimum wage and no bonuses, would you really want to? You already earned everything, would that really be enjoyable?

Also as for god mode blah blah you are missing the point, YOU get your option of playing it over from scratch, but maybe to some of us, it's a waste of time and boring cause already did it once, doing it all over again is not going to make it new and exciting, even if you try a different weapon or approach, it still ends with the same outcome.

I could care less about this Game+ you're taling about. So, ya, i would say needing that to make it a "good game" is strictly opinion....

your last paragraph illustrates that it is merely an OPINION- look at your words.

And if G+ is a dealbreaker for you, then i think youre missing the point of the game, entirely.. but thats just my opinion

:violin: I stopped respecting your opinion the moment you started bashing mine. Welcome to the interwebz.

All boils down to 6 words: Too. Bad. So. Sad. Bye. Bye.

If you don't like it, don't [censored] buy it, that simple.

You sound too angry, and I can appreciate that, but has there been confirmation that "cheats" via the console will NOT be allowed?..... every id game has had 'cheats', why don't you just wait for that to happen? /console, ~impulse99 or IDKFA or whatever... would that satisfy you, or are you only interested in starting a "new game" with all of your "I just beat the game and have everything and want to be this exact same character on level 1" attitude?

I guess I shouldn't reply and keep this going, but with the hope in mind that he doesn't pop an artery or something. . .

Your logic is stupid, New Game + isn't like getting a job in Burger King when you have a Master's degree, it's like finishing a game in a timeline, and going back in time to the beginning after you got to the conclusion, to repeat the sequence of events, THAT YOU WERE ALREADY CAPABLE OF COMPLETING, with an advantage.

I HATE starting over after spending hours collecting items and upgrades. I agree with the OP. everyone keeps saying this a FPS but it's not just that. So many people have said that they had tried the game and were very surprised on how much rpg was in it. A new game+ is not a deal breaker for me but it is nice to have the option. In fact there is no deal breaker out there that can change anything, I will be buying this game tonight regardless. Even if everyone said it svcked. I never base buying a game off reviews. I disagree with most.

See,but that's different, you're disappointed the feature isn't included, that's understandable, but you aren't looking for reasons to not buy the game, reasons that aren't really THAT significant.

Ya your right. People just need to stop complaining and play the game. If its not as great or didn't include something or some feature then wait a while and buy it discounted.

Your post made absolutely no sense. You also imply that most games have a "New game +" mode. The only game I can think of off the top of my head is borderlands, but thats because its actually an rpg shooter. Rage is not. It may have RPG elements, but dont kid yourself. It is a First person shooter. There is really no reason for a "New game +". If thats a deal breaker for you then sorry. Your going to miss one hell of a game.

Well, it worked really well in Red Faction: Armageddon (an extremely fun, underrated game IMHO). When you start a second playthrough on that game, you keep all your nano-upgrades, AND you can now spend "salvage" (which you pick up during the game) to unlock totally new "cheat" abilities. You even get a unicorn that craps explosive rainbows... er, for those who like that sort of thing. No, I'm not kidding. But you get an assault rifle with guided bullets, too, for the people who can't bring themselves to aim the rear end of a unicorn at their foes, lol. These are weapons that are ONLY accessible when you beat the game and start over, and you get to keep all your upgrades, too. This means that any salvage you acquire can now be used to continue unlocking more upgrades OR to buy cheats. (And the cheats are VERY expensive to unlock, so you have an incentive to play hard, as opposed to putting cheats into a console, which tends to svck the motivation right out of the game).

All in all, while I don't think "new game +" could really be called a gaming industry standard feature, it HAS been done, even with FPS games. And some of us (myself included) dearly love it and think it adds a LOT of replay value to a title.

But no, it's not a deal-breaker, in my opinion. And speaking of opinions, I don't really see either "side" in this thread being particularly kind to the other side. I'm not a moderator, so I can't tell you to lay off it, but I can SUGGEST that someone please take the high road and stop hurling insults. Nobody wins these things, in my experience. The OP is steamed because he feels the game's developers lied to him, and I think that's understandable. :/

P.S. FOUR HOURS TO RAGE RELEASE, WOO! Can't wait.

I'm pretty sure you'll be able to use a console or mod on the PC version to give yourself the items you want when you start a new game.

However while I understand the psychological reasons you might want to have cool loot, it's not going to make the game much of a challenge.