http://kotaku.com/5851953/doom-4-indefinitely-postponed-following-rages-disappointing-launch

:shocking: This is not good ZeniMax Media Inc. :wallbash: :swear: :banghead:

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If this is true and Bethesda is really this anol. Then Obsidian will never touch fallout again due to insane bugs.

It's just a rumor. For the record though, I WILL buy Doom 4 if they release it years from now.

This rumor proven false. Check twitter.

Yup, bull[censored]. Peter Hines and Matt Hooper have confirmed this is just that - a rumour.

More than a rumour, it's an all out lie. "[censored]" = [censored]

Kotaku has been on a major negativity trip about everything to do with id and Rage since release date; anything they say should be viewed with the appropriate amount of scepticism.

If anything, poor RAGE sales could force Doom 4 to be released early to make up for lost profit.

I know this much, I wont be buying it after I bought Rage and still haven't shot one bullet!! I've even downloaded it from steam and still crashes..

Here you go:

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/DOOM-RAGE-id-tech-5-indefinite-hold-pete-hines,13776.html

Once again, more negative rubbish.

The way I see it is that people fall into a number of camps.

ATI/AMD users are justifiably annoyed, but I think they'd be better off directing their ire at AMD. The engine works perfectly fine on a vast range of hardware, so it's quite definite that this is a hardware/driver problem with ATI/AMD. Once again: the engine uses lots of dynamic texture updates, and ATI/AMD hardware is intolerably bad at this. As soon as ATI/AMD fix their hardware/drivers to be competitive at dynamic texture updates, then the engine will run fine on them. As soon as ATI/AMD fix their OpenGL driver in particular to not be a crock of sh1t, the game will run perfectly fine. Anybody who's ever developed an OpenGL program will confirm this - ATI/AMD are rubbish.

It's like owning a car that can only drive in straight lines. As soon as you try to turn it, it crashes. So long as you only ever drive in a straight line it's OK. If all roads in your country are straight you'll never even be aware that there is a problem. Do you blame someone who built a road with a turn in it, or do you blame the car manufacturer? What if being able to handle turns was a required feature of cars that the manufacturer left out because they saw an opportunity for a cost-saver? Who would you blame then?

Next up we have Troll Type Number 1. These are the people who are p1ssed at ID for selling to Zenimax, and their opinion is based on that and is not derived from anything to do with the engine. This really comes across strongly from the Rage forums. ID could have released a gold-plated jewel from the planet Mars with angels singing on it, and they would still push out their negativity. Their motivation seems to be to do as much damage as possible in as public an arena as possible in order to vent their displeasure at the sale. They don't care about the game; the game could be good, bad or indifferent and it wouldn't matter. This includes those who are reacting negatively because they think ID are due a backlash.

Then we have Troll Type Number 2. Their motivation is that they see someone being kicked while down, and they just like to join in. That is, I believe, where a lot of the false claims (such as completing the game in 6 hours, misleading comparative screenshots, etc) come from.

Finally we have people who honestly just don't like the game. They're OK, there are plenty of games released every year that people like or don't like; it's just personal opinion.

Well, kotaku isnt really a high quality gaming site, so i wouldnt believe anything they say. Expecially nameless rumours. They are always incorrect. Somepeople are just trying to get attention at any means.

There is no point why they would do that, because doom3 sold 3-4 millions copies and also Rage has sold in 2 weeks almost million copies. 553 000 copies in xbox, 350 000 copies in Playstation 3 and 80 000 in pc=983 000 games sold. Those are good numbers. And that number doesnt count download counts from steam/online download services.

So this week it has already breaked that one million barrier, because this week isnt counted in those numbers as they arent released yet in gamessales.

you cant compare rage to doom -,- jeez...

rage from my viewing is the same old, same old...

you do doom4 as its ment to be and not like doom3 and it will sell.

100% correct! I'm a 3D programmer myself and although i work with DirectX, it's obvious that the main problem Rage has is Ati's crappy driver problem that hasn't go better but worse over the years.

Just in case noone has noticed:
Most Catalyst drivers used with Ati's Radeon HD series also crash from time to time with OLDER openGL games, especially when based on ID's Doom3 engine.
So this is not a problem related to Rage, it's a problem with Ati's driver team not finding an old I/O bug in their own openGL drivers!

I had to disable PCI read and PCI write under SmartGart in the Catalyst control center to prevent openGL applications from stuttering and crashing.

Ati/AMD are great in designing GPUs but they're bad at programming drivers.