The enmity between west and eastern hemispheres. Everyone blames the other for the way the world is today.

For religion, this is because of beliefs. What one can see and what one cannot see, and all that. What makes sense through logic and what does not make sense in the absence of logic.

I'm sure you don't mean hemispheres. because that would mean I could blame East Anglia.

A note, here - I'm tentatively leaving this topic open, for the time being.

Let's not, however, let this shift into the realm of becoming a political or religious discussion, itself. (Because that would be over the line...)

And then our focus shifts to your eyebrows, and you lose all credibility, my friend

besides, I was suppose to be God this week, Morgan Freeman showed up in my kitchen and said so!

darn. :confused:



Without being loquacious.. because I never drink before noon, you might wanna disregard the whole Morgan Freeman remark :hehe:


:P

Aren't politics and religion the same thing to most people?

Anyway, many people become irrational when their religious and/or political beliefs are questioned. A discussion of these things is going to involve people with different viewpoints. It's a recipe for an almost guaranteed flame war.

While I rarely have any credibility to begin with, I like to think that the eyebrows help reinforce my points, rather than take away from them. Just look at them. They're a suggestive set of eyebrows if I ever saw one. :hubbahubba:

It's going to be hard for me to get my point across, as I'm not really good at that sort of thing, but I'll try anyway.

People, especially on the internet, aren't very respectful of what others stand for. There is no party directly to blame, as the problem is with the individual. For some people their beliefs are so deeply rooted that they are almost brainwashed (for lack of a better word - don't take offense). Often, but certainly not always, this is due to their upbringing. I have no explanation why some people take every word against them so incredibly serious, but they do.
Perhaps it's a sign of insecurity, their beliefs being questioned. Then again it might not be; who knows?

As for me personally. I was very much like that when in puberty, an extremely annoying atheist (come on, you all know em from the internet! ). Luckily music for a large part made me reflect on myself, it made me realise that my attitude towards others was terrible.
These years I'm alot more acceptable of others interpretations, I accept others' views and beliefs. But not to the point where my own point of view changes, maybe at most it's sort of like "Hey, why not. Neither science nor religion has found the answer.".

Unfortunately there's still some things that get me angry sometimes. For instance the simple and complete refusal of some religious people to accept science (Bill O'reilly springs to mind). Sure, you might not agree with everything scientists have discovered (for the lack of a better word). Neither do I, but it can still bring us a lot of new insight, information and all that jazz.

Delete my post if I got carried away. I just love a good argument about Religion mostly, Dutch politics are too boring to think about anyway.

I agree with most of the above - politics and religion are core beliefs that we personally identify with. Its what shapes our own personal worldview and, regardless of who we are, or where we come from, everyone has an opinion on it. Even a lack of opinion still counts. These two subjects form the basis of our entire society and shape it on a daily basis. Like here in the UK, football (or soccer, as some may mistakenly refer to it) is an immensely tribal culture - everyone loves their own team and will support it with great ferocity. But it only happens against those who have an interest in football. If you don't then you don't get involved, and are therefore outside the argument. With politics and religion, everyone is involved.

That is why religious/political threads always invite the greatest controversy. Outside of a Fallout 3 vs Fallout New Vegas comparison thread, of course. :tongue:

Like everyone else said in their different ways, they are just very touchy subjects.

No one likes to be told they are wrong in the way they view life.

From my experiences, arguments about religion (specifically about God) never really go anywhere. Neither side of the argument has nearly enough evidence to convince the other, and usually the argument goes in circles until eventually people get angry.

The same goes for politics, but to a lesser extent. No one is really convinced, and in my opinion, the issues are too complicated for one person to be totally correct (unless it is something completely absurd).