lol it's so true.

Yes indeed, you did leave out several things!

I'm very temped to give this a proper reply but that would mean re-installing Rage on my PC then going through the whole game again taking screen shots as I go to prove my points and I'm not about to go through that again so where SOL. And then there are several things that are just opinion based that don't prove that Rage was good or bad but rather just personal opinions. Oh well.

Were there good things about Rage? Oh yeah you bet there was. But was Rage worth $60 dollars and would I recommend it to somebody? Sadly no. I must admit the idea of completely slamming you fan boys is highly tempting but the time I would need to effectively do this makes it just impossible for me to do.

So in closing I would like to ask this, can I have the game I seen in the trailers and all the hyped up reviews cuz that game was fricken awesome looking? Think they sold me the wrong version.

Man.... Its my opinion that these days gamers are so spoilt for choices that nothing satisfies them anymore, they pick every game to bits and instantly think its a load of %#*# without giving it a real chance or seeing whats good about them becouse their expectations are too high.

Its the same thing on so many game forums, those who love the game and couldnt praise it enough and those who instantly dismiss it as a load of garbage.

When i was a kid , me and my bros shared a NES( was born in 82, i saw ataris and so on but didnt start gaming till 5 or 6 yrs old) and we loved every game that came out becouse back then we apreciated every new game we got and played the hell out of it. These days there is no love for games, no apreciation.

Its this hateing that spawned modding which imo is a great dissraspect to the developers who work so hard to make the game the best they can only to have people pick it apart, change everything....... wrong man, just wrong. Apreciate and enjoy games as they are or move on to something else, dont hang around forums just to bash a game that so many others love.

Just my 2 .

Enjoy gaming. Peace-

Ronin

1. Main line story- Go there--- Kill those guys--- get that thing
2. Side quests- Same as the above+maybe defend something with sniper rifle
3. Mini games are not side quests.. they are just mini games.. you cannot compare their importance in the game with quests, because they are not really important... they got boring quite fast too, because if you play a minigame you have to do the same thing the same way all the time
4, Probably not many types--- maybe like 3? I can only thing of rocket racing, time trial and collecting of that blue light lol... there were also very few maps... in wellspring I think there were actually only 2 right? That is not that much
5. There were almost no bad guys in the open area except for bandits in cars. There was no point in killing them because you always had enough money and since there are not any major RPG elements you would not be rewarded in any other usefull way like grinding xp etc.
6. There are 19 recepies in the game including lock grinder, ammo recipes and that medical stuff that no one used. That is not much. There was nothing to build too. Why would I make ammo if I can buy it from the store without having to spend so much time making it- yes it would save money, but I always had enough.
The sentry bots were quite overpowered so I never used them because it felt too easy without them anyways. Is there anything else useful that I can build? Probably only wingsticks..

Dont get me wrong I liked the game, but I was still very disapointed because it has a lot of potential, which just got wasted..

just_the_flu, you get it, finaly somone gets it. I know forums are all about discussions, the good and bad, we are all different with different oppinions but these days its got to the point where every day on the forum is the same, more and more complaints and [censored]ing, lol you should check out dead island forum, 100 % complaints 100 % of the time " welcome to dead Island forum" :rofl:

1. it is true, but your opinion is over-simplified. There are reasons to kill those guyz and get that thing. (for example, get a sponsor, or a defib..)
2. Yes, side quests are simple, so what? If i don't wanna make hard-kill bloody quests is choose this type.( And there are guyz who gives other types of missions.)
3. I didn't say that mini games are side quests. They are just fun, if you don't wanna kill anyone just play card etc. I really enjoy the card game, if i don't wanna go out of town.
4. It's not a race game. You race, and you can upgrade it's that simple. And you practice for MP-races wich are great!
5. Ok, you are right. We should wait for DLC. We will see. On the other hand, i don't have quests in the desert so i don't wanna stop there. It's not a sandbox or open area game.
6. Wait for DLC and balance. It's too early to judge.

This game is not for hc gamers, this is for casuals who wanna spend some time in an authentic (decadent) fantasy world (and i don't want to grind xp!). And it is also a good base and place for great DLC-s.

It is kind of a buzz kill if they plan to release game fixes as a dlc. I dont think it is too early to judge. After all, first impressions are very important, although they might be misinterpreted. This game has weak storyline, weak gameplay imo because it gives you more guns that you need and its all point and shoot, but it is [censored] gorgeous and the artstyle does blow my mind, but again it is dumbed down by the textures. If you play it on PC and you put it on a monitor with high resolution it will make you cry, because the game is well designed, but sufferes a lot because of the textures.

The artists at id are crying about the low res textures as well. No one seems to understand this....

Aside from the texture issue, which btw doesn't bother me or tons of others, you hack at the "weak" gameplay . . . your opinion and your right to it . . . but I was just wondering if you've played the Wasteland Legends co-op missions? There are 9 of them and most of them are extremely challenging . . . much more so than the SP missions . . . in them you're never overpowered or over ammo'd and they take more skill and teamwork. I recommend that section of the game for all who feel the SP was too easy. Once you've been thru one, it unlocks for good and you go back and play it over.

Also you can make the SP harder by limiting youself to less weapon use i.e. just using the pistol and a crossbow, or something like that.

Yeah the OP is not alone in this. Rage would have been amazing.....if it was released.....3 years ago. The graphics aren't amazing by today's standards. They are different, not amazing. When people see artistry and rendering that is different than other games they think the graphics are "amazing". They are good, better than most, but ultimately the palatte and rendering and art work is just "different" which gives the impression that they are better than other games.

I think Id fans were all expecting something INCREDIBLE from Id because most of us know the rich history and significance Id holds in the industry. I like Rage, I just don't love it and was disappointed in the fact that they didn't have Team Death Match and that the release date was placed with tons of big franchise games that overshadowed Rage. If Rage is the worst game you have ever played, that also says something about you OP....you haven't played very many games. I would have titled this thread "Replying to Possibly the most disappointing game I've ever played"

But yeah, it is funny how some people on these forums can't admit where Rage went wrong and will defend the indefensible for fanboyism or to just straight up disagree to be disagreeable. Those people will never admit that we have valid points that they should study and re-think their own arguments. If something comes to me in opposition to what I believe, I at least study it and compare facts - some of these people just simply won't do that.

You missed that Rage is an Id developed FPS that has no Team Death Match which was 1. something that Quake and Doom fans expected and 2. something that the community voted overwhelmingly in agreement that TDM missing was a bad thing.

And you missed the fact that the game was released on a date that was surrounded by big franchise releases, thus giving it minimal exposure.

Oh yeah, and the manual save and loading screens are something that developers today are mindfully removing from games.

Oh and the ending of Rage which was in my opinion THE most anti-climactic ending I have ever seen....a 30 second CGI video that shows a satellite, the earth, and Arks coming out of the ground....so exciting.....yawn

'Yeah the OP is not alone in this. Rage would have been amazing.....if it was released.....3 years ago. The graphics aren't amazing by today's standards. They are different, not amazing.


You are just SO wrong!

'Oh yeah, and the manual save and loading screens are something that developers today are mindfully removing from games.'


Which has ALWAYS been a hallmark of PC gaming, as opposed to console checkpoints.
So now we're criticizing RAGE for being true to PC conventions?!
Awesome!

The reason you are able to make an itemized list of people's complaints is simply because the majority find this to be a sub par game. Let's go through your list, shall we?

• Some kind of complaint about the textures up close. We have a plethora of screen shots taken of puke textures and just all around off putting backgrounds. So this complaint is a FACT.
  
• Gameplay complaints: it's an FPS not an RPG or open world , and the poster seemed to completely miss this fact during the lead-in to release. The game is short, the ending is absolutely infuriatingly stupid, there is no depth, and you never have a reason to use the BFG ammo. So this complaint is just as valid as the first.
  
• AMD screwed up so let's blame id for it (a personal attack or torrent of insults towards Carmack is worth bonus points). This is false. I have dual AMD Radeon HD 6970's and the game has ran since launch with the fixes from these forums. My game never created a cache file and it also had no options to change my settings when it first launched. It is stubborn bug filled mule of a game. AMD may have some driver issues, but iD is not blameless. Fact.
  
• id have betrayed PC gaming and PC gaming is dead and I'm never gonna buy another id game again (bonus points as above).Carmack basically gave PC users the finger and was quoted that he would rather concentrate on making console games. PC gaming is not dead, it just lost a sell out. Fact
  
• Finished the game in a highly unlikely or flat-out impossible amount of time.While I am sure people over embellish the lack of play time on this game, it still comes up short and feels unfinished. I am quite positive it could be time attacked and completed in under 7 hours. A fact and an opinion here, I am mixing it up for ya'!
  
• This isn't the old id and some bizarre, nefarious Zenimax/Bethesda/Illuminatti/lizard-people conspiracy is at work.Well, sure as hell doesn't feel like a classic iD game to me. In fact, this game seems different than anything they have ever made. I seriously doubt there was any conspiracy here, just a bunch of developers selling out. Fact.
  
• Accusations of not having tested the game (despite plenty of evidence - which nobody has denied - that the game was very highly tested).I would love to see that evidence. Does someone here know the game testers? Do we have some surveillance footage? Or perhaps this "evidence" you speak of is just some garbage that came out of someone's mouth/Twitter account.
  
• General "but it works with everything else!" point-missing.No idea what this is in reference to. FACT.

Oh, you also forgot to list that no one is capable of communicating updates with the people that are disappointed.

So true! A totally PC hallmark! I love being able to save when and where I want to and not be at the mercy of checkpoints! How can "saving when you want to possibly be a bad thing?

Add:

• Comparing Rage's graphics to some ancient console.

Odd that these people are just so consistent, isn't it?

Lol, I love the check list... It is true though. And the sad thing is only a few of those problems are really problems (up close graphics), and in no way are they game breaking. When I first read it, I thought "Hmm, I'll fire up RAGE and see what they mean". Sure enough, the graphics aren't super amazing up close. Then I realised I really didn't care less and continued enjoying my game. PErfectly honest, if it was out of having how it is now, or having the usual style of graphics with less object detail and repetitive texturs, then I would pick id Tech 5 style, because it si nice to see something different.

where there's smoke there's fire.....

at least people are complaining about legitimate points and not outlandish crap like 'RAGE broke my xbox/ps3/pc/whatever'.