Paul Neurath (Looking Glass Founder) talks about working wit : Othor Games

» Sat May 12, 2012 9:33 am

It's just a small tidbit from a huge interview, but I thought it was worth sharing nonetheless. Plus, if you're interested in this kind of game and haven't listened to this series of interviews, you're missing out.

The Arkane discussion starts at around 1:18:00

http://gambit.mit.edu/updates/audio/looking_glass_studios_podcast/

» Fri May 11, 2012 11:58 pm

Interesting, thanks for this. First person role-playing Immersive sims FTW! No-one can beat the design principles of LGS other than LGS themselves (if they were still together) or Arkane. At least that is what the last 10 years have proved.

Go to 1:36:20 for the most important part.

[censored] Bejewled, I hate simple games.

There you have it, they discuss appealing to a wider audience and simplifying at the end.
just make the game hardcoe by default devs, then make a simplified mode that appeals to a wider audience, most developers should do that.
But I suppose it depends on how long it takes and how much resources to make a simplified mode....there must be a real solution to this issue, it needs to be talked over.
Im sure Arkane has already made their decision, I hope it is a good one.

» Sat May 12, 2012 11:01 am

I'd like to hold onto my bandwidth. What's the gist of the tidbits?

» Sat May 12, 2012 9:02 am

[censored] Bejewled, I hate simple games.

There you have it, they discuss appealing to a wider audience and simplifying at the end.
just make the game hardcoe by default devs, then make a simplified mode that appeals to a wider audience, most developers should do that.
But I suppose it depends on how long it takes and how much resources to make a simplified mode....there must be a real solution to this issue, it needs to be talked over.
Im sure Arkane has already made their decision, I hope it is a good one.

There is a solution. Go make the kind of game you want to play. Then all the risk, hardship, struggle, and reward will be yours.

But saying things like "[censored] Bejewled, I hate simple games." is just childish. I'm sorry, but it really is.

I'd like to hold onto my bandwidth. What's the gist of the tidbits?

He basically said that they came in to consult on Arx Fatalis 2, which was then turned into Dark Messiah of Might and Magic. He sounded pretty up on both games, and lamented that he hasn't been able to talk EA into making another Ultima Underworld.

» Sat May 12, 2012 8:24 am

But saying things like "[censored] Bejewled, I hate simple games." is just childish. I'm sorry, but it really is.

What is your problem? am I not allowed to have an opinion? simple games make me mad because they are easiest to make yet are pretty much always successful, and they just bore me in minutes flat. Do NOT insult me.

» Sat May 12, 2012 11:23 am

There is a solution. Go make the kind of game you want to play. Then all the risk, hardship, struggle, and reward will be yours.

Well that is rather childish right there in itself, you really think I can, or will go do such a thing? it would take 10 years minimum to get into the position to be able to make a game exactly to my liking, and that is only if everything goes smoothly (yeah right), and then I would just get rejected by a publisher anyway.
Keep the snide comments to yourself.

» Sat May 12, 2012 3:05 am

Well that is rather childish right there in itself, you really think I can, or will go do such a thing?

I wasn't being snide. If you are so dissatisfied with how games are being made that you constantly gripe about it and snipe at other people's tastes as being "dumb," then I think you should look into game design. The barrier of entry has never been lower. Not for the technology, not for the distribution, nothing. There's no conceivable reason it should take ten years if you keep your goals in check.

» Fri May 11, 2012 9:55 pm

I wasn't being snide. If you are so dissatisfied with how games are being made that you constantly gripe about it and snipe at other people's tastes as being "dumb," then I think you should look into game design. .

What? Have you been following me? And I never said anyone's tastes were dumb, although I do believe some are, watch this video, ALL OF IT.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKxx5QC0ewc
Discraceful that kids are exposed to this kind of **** and it is just bad, bad BAD.
urgh I am just promoting it myself by posting it here.....GRRR! ill edit it out soon.

» Fri May 11, 2012 7:04 pm

Never mind, then. :rolleyes:

» Sat May 12, 2012 1:56 am

Never mind, then. :rolleyes:

I strongly recommend you download, very interesting.
I haven't listened to it all but there is too much to say in writing, sorry m8.
but the part about arkane is very short, it is basically what Resonance cascade said + Paul Neurath could not remember Arkane, as in the name of the company, which I found funny, offensive and unbelievable at the same time. Arkane are awesome, unforgettable after Arx! But so is Paul :smile:

» Sat May 12, 2012 5:24 am

Whoa system shock is crazy! first i get jumped by a ton of cyborgs, beat that level, then im the elevator relaxing to the music and again another ambush! spark gun overheats but luckily the mutants glitched out giving me time to switch and beat em down with the lead pipe. Is it normal to have about 35 med patches and a couple of med kits already though? the difficulty levels i chose average out to just above normal but i thought it would be a bit harder like SS2. I Suppose beating the controls is the hardest part :tongue:

Awesome game! SS2 still better though, but that is understandable.
Also, no consequence for using the quantum bio-reconstructors?

» Sat May 12, 2012 2:03 am

wHAT THE [CENSORED] press some random button and a laser destroys half of earth, game over! hadnt saved in a while either! im pissed! but i love it, awesome!