Hey guys,

I have searched the forums and have not been able to find anything on this so I figured I'd ask. I was thinking about fun combinations for a class and I want to combine a thief class with conjuring. If I conjure something and it begins to attack, will I still be hidden even if I am not in combat myself or will I automatically be in combat as long as my pet is in combat. I mainly want to use my "pet" as a distraction as I go around killing enemies.

Thoughts?

Thanks

You can but as soon as they get pwnt, you're next. if you are going to go that route, If it were Me, I'd use a companion as well until I Leveled up Conjuration a bit.

or just find a nice quite place and /afk cast conjure spells until you hit a decent level in it ;D

I prefer illusion for my assassin character ha , but I used conjuration on a previous character and once you get dremora lords, they do all the work for you...

Well that's kinda where my question lies. If I conjure something while hidden and it gets killed will the enemies know it was me and automatically go for me?

I am a Thief/Assassin and I use conjuring for my bow and sword. Best combo ever. Only draw back is, when you summon a bow or sword, it makes A LOT of noise, and I mean a lot. Enemies will come searching for the noise if you are too close. If you use a bow like I do, and use a pet for distraction, that is always awesome too because you can almost always stay hidden while your pet takes the attacks, But as someone said, soon as your pet goes down; you are out in the open. So make sure you spec your character right.

A question for you sir. If you are fighting a mob and you use the calm illusion spell and run away to hide, they won't automatically run after you after it wears off, correct?

no, you are hidden from the enemies and will remain hidden even if your summons are fighting.

I play a thief conjuror, and it works very well. Here's how I do it:

I approach a room (or other aria with enemies) in sneak mode. From as far away as possible, I summon my antronoch into the room. Immediately any enemies in the room will partially detect me (eye a tiny bit open) so I move back further into the hallway, around a corner, or behind cover. The advantage to this is that I can see exactly how many enemies are in the room on my compass without actually entering the room. That determines my next strategy.

If there are several enemies, I wait until I am completely undetected again and summon another antronoch.

If there's only one, but it kills my antronoch I summon another one into the room and sneak forward and watch the fight long enough to see how much health it has left, than hide again. I keep doing this until my antronoch either wins, or my foes health is low enough that I can do and instakill backstab.

If my antronoch wins the fight, I go collect my loot.

There are a number of variations, but that's the basic strategy. I find that it can be very difficult to sneak in and backstab during the fight, but I've occasionally pulled it off. If you use ranged, you can probably pull it off a little better, but be warned that the target and anybody else will probably detect you after the first shot. If you do get detected but they're busy fighting the antronoch, you can sometimes get far enough away that you'll be undetected again. If you use the conjured weapons, make sure you keep them up or summon them while the enemy is fighting the antronoch, because If you cast a spell within a certain range of an enemy while stealthed, they partly detect you. They also partly detect you when they engage the antronoch. However, if your far enough away, they will undetect you during the fight. If there's no antronoch, there's a good chance they'll come looking for you and find you- though that does make for an entertaining way to lure an enemy around a corner into a backstab...

Other things:

Don't bother with necromancy spells. You need to be able to summon a pet next to an enemy that hasn't detected you, and your not likely to have any handy corpses in the right place.
The antronoch wont engage any enemy that hasn't detected you or attacked it. However, if an enemy even partly detects you, it will attack them immediately. So summoning an antronoch next to them is better than keeping one out. Doing both is even better- if your sneak is good enough, they'll probably go for the antronoch without seeing you.
Thanks to the above, this is not a very good strategy for dragon killing. You'll usually just have to duke it out with them normally.

This combination is a little technical, but very fun once you get the hang of it. There's a real sadistic pleasure in seeing the enemy run around looking for you once they kill the antronoch, and then summoning another one right in the middle of the bunch as soon as they let their guard down


Note: Yeah, yeah, my spelling's awful. I'm dlysixic. Cope.