BlueScreen In Skyrim 5

Post » Mon May 28, 2012 7:47 pm

I'm trying 12.1a preview drivers from ATI and so far zero problems, informs of any instability ...
Sorry for my English.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 6:15 am

Blue screen = not Skyrim but your computer, sure you may have other games that don't creation the right conditions but keep in mind a blue screen is the operating system meeting conditions it cannot compensate for like failing ram or a wayward driver. To resolve this you should start with a very important question: What is the error code on the blue screen? Its a 0x000000**, what are the last two digits? Find out and then use google to find out what the blue screen is coming from and fix that. Problem solved.


Just an FYI - Both Blue Screen's and CTD's can be caused by Software (Skyrim), OS (Windows), and Hardware. Not sure where the Blue Screen = Skyrim and CTD = OS/hardware Blue Screen = OS/hardware and CTD = Skyrim, thing got started but it's totally incorrect.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 5:54 pm

After a great catalyst testing under 12.1a think these are much more stable and although I sometimes I have noticed that excessive GPU load when it reaches 100% artifacts begin to appear, but now with the Catalyst 12.1a is all more stable. How I can reduce this burden Skyrim GPU?. In any game except in this experiment that gpu load.
My FPS are about 45 to 60 with vsync, Graphics ULTRA.
GPU temperature 74 o MAX.
GPU load between 70% and 100%.
All tested with MSI Afterburner.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 5:23 pm

Try on High settings rather than Ultra.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 7:22 pm

Just an FYI - Both Blue Screen's and CTD's can be caused by Software (Skyrim), OS (Windows), and Hardware. Not sure where the Blue Screen = Skyrim and CTD = OS/hardware, thing got started but it's totally incorrect.
Its the reverse, Skyrim seems to have a rather good signal handler built in that controlled-crashes to desktop (no warnings but hey) and I've yet to see the application actually do anything worse. Meanwhile and without fail hardware and driver problems can and do tend to result in more harsher crashes like blue screens and flat out hard resets etc.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 1:21 am

Killdani I'm glad to hear you are getting it running..
As the others suggested try lowering settings to high -s-
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 9:43 pm

That option consumes more graphic?, Not to lose much quality ...
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 8:42 pm

Its the reverse, Skyrim seems to have a rather good signal handler built in that controlled-crashes to desktop (no warnings but hey) and I've yet to see the application actually do anything worse. Meanwhile and without fail hardware and driver problems can and do tend to result in more harsher crashes like blue screens and flat out hard resets etc.

Oops, gotta proofread more. That's what I meant. Somewhere, someone started saying 'CTD's = Skyrim issue and Blue Screen's = OS/hardware'.
If hardware (CPU, chipset, memory, video card) is hitting a thermal threshold (for example) then you can very easily have CTD's. I used to overclock the snot out of my hardware and would regularly suffer from CTD's in Morrowind. I would fix them by turning the clocks (CPU, memory, video card) down to a stable level. Contrarily, if the program (Skyrim) has a severe memory leak, makes calls to non-accessible memory, or does one of a hundred other OS no-no's, you can have a Blue Screen easily.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 6:34 pm

In the case here....Blue screen + Artifacts + Skyrim = Running to hard. Check the GPU clocks. If overclocked from factory (!) set to stock refenence clocks. Clean all fans, Is this a newer 57 series card or have you been "gamin the crap out the card"?<,TM
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 5:52 am

Lower the shadows to medium and everything else follows in ULTRA. So far no blue screen and no artifacts. The FPS after this change are almost identical. Skyrim A Bug?
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 3:21 am

Do you now how to disable shadows,grass completely ?
I know that you can toggle grass and trees in console with tg and tt but is there another way so that shadows and grass doesn't load in memory?
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 6:33 am

Do you now how to disable shadows,grass completely ?
I know that you can toggle grass and trees in console with tg and tt but is there another way so that shadows and grass doesn't load in memory?
in skyrimprefs you'll find bdrawshadow, set that to 0, you'll also find two lines referencing grass draw distances, set them both to 0. Tada!
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 5:57 pm

In loading vegetation I have no problem. In general, I have no problems in charges. The FPS are pretty good on exterior and interior, with a median of 45 and 60 FPS with the Vsync option activate. There are no problems with the shadows in the medium. The problems happen when you enable the opcion "ultra" of the shadows, blue screens, artifacts..., although all of this I have not tested 100%.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 4:58 am

In loading vegetation I have no problem. In general, I have no problems in charges. The FPS are pretty good on exterior and interior, with a median of 45 and 60 FPS with the Vsync option activate. There are no problems with the shadows in the medium. The problems happen when you enable the opcion "ultra" of the shadows, blue screens, artifacts..., although all of this I have not tested 100%.
I have to keep my shadows at high (everything else at Ultra) because it's too much of a performance hit, especially inside, with multiple light sources. I've got my ugrids setting to 7 though, and still get acceptable frame rate and much less 'pop in' of objects as I'm moving through the landscape. It took me a while but I've found a good balance between eye-candy and playability of course now I'm hitting some of the quest bugs :S
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 3:46 pm

I think the problems are due to the high usage of CPU and GPU ... the values ??are very high.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 5:03 am

1) Always clean driver installation using the Driver Sweeper before each installation, in this no problem.
2) CPU: 40 o MAX. GPU: 78 o MAX. All this tested with "Msi Afterburner".
I have to add that before jumping the blue screen artifacts always occur, something very usual in this game and not just for me.

I think it's your Video Memory...

Try your video memory with http://majorgeeks.com/Video_Memory_Stress_Test__d5896.html
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 11:32 pm

Oops, gotta proofread more. That's what I meant. Somewhere, someone started saying 'CTD's = Skyrim issue and Blue Screen's = OS/hardware'.
If hardware (CPU, chipset, memory, video card) is hitting a thermal threshold (for example) then you can very easily have CTD's. I used to overclock the snot out of my hardware and would regularly suffer from CTD's in Morrowind. I would fix them by turning the clocks (CPU, memory, video card) down to a stable level. Contrarily, if the program (Skyrim) has a severe memory leak, makes calls to non-accessible memory, or does one of a hundred other OS no-no's, you can have a Blue Screen easily.

Memory leaks (in user-mode applications) most certainly will not cause blue screens, but once there's no more memory to available to an application, it will often crash (either it has no checks against this and crashes trying to access memory at 0x00000000, or will 'gracefully' shutdown due to not being able to continue operating normally).
Making calls to non-accessible memory results in Windows raising an exception (0xC0000005 access violation) and nothing more (apps usually crash/are terminated (Unhandled Exception), because they're not programmed to handle it).

There should be nothing a user-mode application can do to cause blue screens, but they can trigger underlying issues (like bugs in drivers) that can cause blue screens or cpu resets (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_fault).

You should probably back up your facts. Please do point me if I'm wrong somewhere, I have no experience from programming kernel-mode stuff.

http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/2008/01/understanding-user-and-kernel-mode.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_protection_fault
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 4:38 am

I had the same problem as you with an radon hd 5700 card, win 7 64bit but an amd system.
Bluescreens from time to time, however then I tried to add some texture mods the time between crashes went down fast, bought an hd 6800 card and no blue screen afterward.

Old card worked well in Oblivion, Fallout 3, New Vegas and wow, was also fast enough for Skyrim. I bought a card online and because of the return policy I could return it if I did not like it. Testing a card from a friend is faster.
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Post » Mon May 28, 2012 6:35 pm

Granted that BSOD are technically PC-created but, surely, some games can trigger them?
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 12:29 am

Granted that BSOD are technically PC-created but, surely, some games can trigger them?

In a perfect storm of really bad programming mixed with a weak driver or over-taxed hardware of some kind perhaps. Ultimately a game is just an app, part of the OS and the drivers job description includes ensuring that no matter what an app asks for it will not create a situation that the system on a whole cannot handle (a BSOD). I've seen the gamebryo based games generate them when no other game can but its always come back to the video driver vs the video card being set beyond its means and the gamebryo engine's rather unique ability to expose memory clockrate instability, as an example.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 5:06 am

Very true. On the other hand you can go to just about any games' forum and find examples of people who say that game provokes crashes/blue screens when no other does, so it doesn't really seem specific to Skyrim, just that each game uses resources in different ways - hit a particular usage that exposes a weakness of your system and you get problems.
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Post » Tue May 29, 2012 5:34 am

i see "Driver Sweeper" mentioned

anyone else have a driver cleaning program that they reccommend ?
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