Greetings all,

I am having a very frustrating experience in Skyrim atm. I have completed "Taking Care of Business" but the next quest (Loud and Clear) never starts, but Brynjolf walks into the Cistern wanting me to follow him anyhow, which leads to death most of the time as I get the "You are not supposed to be here" comments from the NPCs inside and then they go hostile.

I have tried the quest on 2 different characters, 1 of which was a custom race, so I used setrace to change to a different race and tried again with the same results. Then I thought, I have an armor mod that modifies the Thieve's Guild Armor, so I unistalled that mod and tried again, same result.

Character 2 is just a big Nord 2 hand user that had not even started the Thieve's Guild quests and he ran into the same issue, "Loud and Clear" doesn't start when Brynjolf says to follow him.

I have quite a few mods, but I really don't see how any of them could be affecting the Thieve's Guild quests. I have a texture replacement mod, a custom race mod, 2 house mods, a Breezehome rework mod, a couple of weapon mods, several companion mods and bunch of armor mods. I already removed the Thieve's Guild armor mod, so I can't see that any of my remaining mods could be the culprit.

Oh, and on toon 1 I am not involved with the civil war at all yet but have the quest to find Elbern. On toon 2, I do not have the Elbern quest and I am halfway thru the Stormcloak quests.

I may have to uninstall all mods and start a new character then go see if I can get "Loud and Clear" to start, but that's a lot of work

Any help or advise would be most appreciated!

Thanks

Do you try USKP ? Maybe Kivan already have that problem solved...


You also can try ...

setstage TG02 20

... to advance in that particular quest, but if you do you will skip the "formal entry" of your character in TG.

See http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Loud_and_Clear for more information.

Thanks for the reply! Unfortunately I had tried what you suggested already. setstage TG02 10 and 0 and 20 and 200, none worked

I have a clean game going right now with no mods and a new character, leveling it a bit then going to go try the Thieve's Guild quest again.

I didn't have a pure mage character or a character that joined the Empire, I made one that will do both, so I, hopefully, will lose nothing from this test and gain my third character.

I just hate to lose my other two characters because of a bug as I have over 170 hours invested, almost 2/3rds of that time invested in my neutral "Thief" toon. Hopefully the quests are not broken for my new toon and I will start adding mods back in and testing on my other characters. Not looking forward to it though.