I am trying to acquire the hilt of Mehrunes' Razor from Jorgen. However, the guy is NEVER there. I have an arrow showing me where the hilt is (under the wood mill), but I cannot get in the house (it tells me I need a key), and he's never around, only some other guy named Grommer or something that starts with a 'G'.

Can someone please help?

Thank you,

TT

P.S. If this is an unavoidable glitch, even a spawn code for the hilt would be fine.

Anyone? Please?

See Note #2 from this quest walkthrough from UESP.net, it may help with the issue:

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Pieces_of_the_Past#Notes

Thank you for your reply, Lyriel. Unfortunately, in my neverending quest to find the answer to my problem, I have seen the post you are referring to, however, I cannot find his body. I have found the spawn code for the key to his house, though. I was thinking that maybe I will have to go that route.

Any other suggestions?

Ah, sorry for the irrelevant information.

If he still lives or his body still exists, you could try using a console command to move your character to wherever he/his body is located. In this particular case it would be typed in like this: player.moveto 0001AA60

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Console#Targeted_Commands
moveto

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Jorgen
Jorgen
REFID: 0001AA60
BASEID: 000138B6

*Make certain that you have a save prior to attempting this and that the game doesn't overwrite that with an Auto-Save, just in case anything goes wrong. If this doesn't work out, you'll have to add the item to your inventory and also advance the quest stage via console commands.

Thank you, Lyriel.

Okay, so I first tried to "moveto" Jorgen. His body is inside and underneath the saw mill, and the game puts me outside just above him. Then I added the key to Jorgen and Jami's house to my inventory. When I tried the door, however, it told me that I needed a key, even though I had the darn thing in my inventory...ridiculous.

Do you have the item code for the Mehrunes' Razor hilt? I honestly don't know what the heck I'm doing when it comes to maniuplating the game like this. And I really don't know how I'm supposed to advance the quest via console commands.

Thanks again.



UPDATE: Okay, I added the hilt to my inventory. I just don't know how to advance the quest from here. Please help. Also, I have the other two items already.

BTW, why wouldn't the door to his house open when I have the key in my inventory?

Can you try COCing into their house? That may get around the infinite locked doors issue.

Open the console and type "coc MorthalJorgenandLamisHouse" (without quotation marks) and hit enter. That should get you into their house to get the hilt. Depending on what's gone off with the door, you may need to COC back out again; "coc Morthal" should do the trick there.

Yeah, the problem with spawning some items is that the spawned version doesn't include the necessary script.

try

player.additem 000240d3 1

for the hilt itself.

What happens if you face the door, go into the console, click the door and type "unlock"?

Simply adding the item to your inventory is not sufficient to cause the quest to progress to the next stage. You'll have to use the appropriate setstage command to accomplish that. You may also be able to move the NPC's corpse to your location or at the very least target it with the prid command. You can then use 'openactorcontainer 1' to open the inventory of the selected NPC's corpse, even if it is normally inaccessible.

Have you tried an earlier save to get an idea when or how he died in such a place? You can load earlier saves and use the moveto command to locate him. Identifying and progressing from an earlier save would be far more ideal than using console commands, even if you're looking at replaying a few hours.

Going up to the door and typing "unlock" did the trick! Thank you both for your help!

Take care,

TT

Fantastic!