Bethesda picked a release date that couldn't possibly be changed. They through out the game 'unfinished' hoping to patch it up later. I understand that a game of this magnitude takes a lot of de-bugging, but I would assume a company would put a little more care into this masterpiece they have made.

Lets face it guys. We are beta testing the game until Christmas.

I don't think that there's a chance in hell Bethesda will allow such a high profile game like this continue to have all these glitches come Christmas time. I wouldn't be surprised at all if we get a fat patch coming up soon here.

Wouldn't be the first I was still Beta testing BC2 4 months back.

Actually come to think of it Beth's and DICE's patching methods (can't say much for currently since I do not have BF3) are similar fix one thing break something else aw its a wonderful world isn't it?

This is Bethesda. See PS3 version of Oblivion. PS3, which is the console that allows free updates, no less.

I'm on the PS3 so that pains me. But to be fair the XBOX players make up the majority of gamers.