You learned *something* in 30 hours, and are assuming the rest. You do not learn what you state in 30 hours of game play. No chance. My guess is you chose to pursue smithing / enchanting and perhaps alchemy in your 30 hours, and discovered that creating uber equipment for yourself makes you uber. Congratulations.

So basically what you're saying is that you played around with something for a little while and then decided to judge the entire tree based on your minuscule experience with it. When you said you had 30 hours played, I at least gave you the benefit of a doubt and figured you used the command console to level the skills and test them at high level, but no.


You might as well have just titled this thread "opinions of a newbie."

Alright, so that's a very well written and accurate account, no doubt.
However, it does show a few discrepancies. It moves past the magic schools a little quickly and that really doesn't do the rest of your excellent anolysis justice.
Looking forward to 2.0

OK first 30 hours? You obviously hadn't played the builds you speak of extensively.

On the topic of smithing. It is balanced if you don't power level it. That is a player choice.

Now the one thing I can't stand is dual wield one handed bashing. I'm now level 58 and have been primary DW since I found two axes on the ground. I started at Master and stuck with it. Between heavy armor and dual wield. With very minor enchants (gear found) and smithed dragon bone (also not exploited) you can easily reach 80% damage reduction... This alone really makes the shield more of a tool than anything else.

You say not enough damage. My two one handers with, all found; amulet and ring boots and gloves I made but not exploited, +one hand damage gives me about 275 damage per weapon. Now factor in one DW power attack, using power attack on both hands at the same time, does a ton of damage. With the damage output of DW you don't need to block.

Ancient dragons are easily destroyed with my build... I can kill one within 10-15 seconds of landing... Oh wait that was when my one handers only did 190 each... I just found a new amulet last night that increased, plus a bit better ring.

I agree. OP was also dead wrong about light armor. You can't possibly give an accurate evaluation of so many categories after 30 hours of play.

Also, if someone finds the smithing overpowered after only 30 hours, that means they're power smithing, not role playing, and that's their choice.

You can break many games if you make the choice to power level or create builds that don't make true sense from a role play perspective. I actually was guilty of this on my first character and got bored about 80 hours in. I deleted, created a new char, mapped out a more realistic rogue/thief build and stopped power smithing like a [censored].

I'm finding it much more enjoyable.

How can you offer this person any credibility. Some of his opinions coincidentally happen to be spot on, but the rest of them are just wrong.

It seems that most people dual wielding don't even know of the Elemental Fury shout's existence.

Insane attack speed, kill anything in less than 3 seconds.

how can everything be overpowered?
wouldn't that just mean the game is too easy

no real case of overpowered when everything is equally powerful

Careful OP, strong statements like "overpowered" and "worthless" might make someone who is reading this think you just don't know enough about the systems to be posting about them...

Actually I tried enchanted weapons last night for the first time in 58 levels when I get done work tomorrow I'm making new daedric one handers because I miss this combo so much.

You are absolutely right. I can see how people would get extremely upset over a skill that they personally love when someone else labels it as useless. Probably should have chosen my grading system a bit differently but I wasn't really trying to write a Skyrim skills FAQ, was just pointing out my opinion on the different skills and perks that I have used across different characters. I haven't maxed out the magic skills yet on the other chars. I assume once they are maxed each one has their own end all ability, but leading up to that point the magic system has felt extremely under powered compared to the other skills available.

Thanks for being one of the few that has taken the high road with their reply

What does that even mean? That's such a pretentious statement that it just makes you look like an idiot for even saying it.

The problem with the game is not just that some skills are exploitable to make an extremely powerful character, it's that there are other skills that are so worthless that you waste time by even thinking of putting perks into them.

I'm waiting for the Unofficial Patch.

Sure Dual Wielding+Elemental Fury=insane atk speed, but when you get enchant/alchemy/smithing exploit up, who needs it? lol, 1 attack kills basically everything.

Again, if you avoid this exploit, my previous post explains why Dual wielding simply isn't as viable as sword/sword+shield/Twohanded

You worded your post like you were some kind of expert on the subject. That was your first mistake. Your second was polarizing almost every skill.

A word of advice: Never state your opinion as fact, especially if you don't have the experience and knowledge to back it up.




Lol, passive aggression.

Play thirty hours>Know all.