Well i cant get this quest to start, Think im supost to talk to a guard who is standing by the murder victem but theres no guard, just 3 random people. Need help : /

lots of bugs with that one: http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Blood_on_the_Ice

depending on platform you may have to wait for a patch.

Maybe the Guard took an arrow in the knee... There are tons of threads about this quest on the forums, too! You can search here, use google or use the wiki link Gecko posted.

Please use the search funtion. Questions about this quest are asked on a daily basis it seems, amd all of them have already been answered in a dozen threads with this exact title.

And try leaving Windhelm and then re-entering once or twice. The quest doesn't trigger untill your 3rd or 4th (i forget the exact number) time visiting the city.

Yeah i thought about reading that but theres probably too many plot spoilers in there, im on a PC so is there a command that can get me past teh first stage and started with the quest?

well it depends on who you've already approached in that area. really you'll have to read through there and figure out your situation and how to proceed.

Yeah i found a solution pretty easy, not sure why i came on here and asked tbh thanks for help anyway

sometimes its nice to get feedback from other people on what has worked for them. and it nice knowing youre not the only one with a given problem.

I do the same thing, but that one is so full of bugs you're really best off reading about it and suffering the spoilers.

I just did this quest last night with zero problems (I did the post-Imperial-takeover start where you simply buy Hjerim and the quest starts when you walk in the front door). I even managed to kill the Butcher seconds before he was able to strike again. I had alot of fun with the mission, wearing black robes and a hood as I patrolled the Grey Quarter. The whole quest was smooth as silk for me. I feel pretty lucky I guess.

http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/613849101946921656/3D3CCF101755D1AFB30AFE78F611069ED2F97D1F/

It one of bugged quest that getting fixed in the Patch1.4.

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hinting without spoilers is really danged hard... do you realize that?

to start there's a dead body and a priest and two witnesses by the body in the graveyard and the guard will question you... UNLESS you triggered the quest before you murdered Ulfric, in which case the battle for Windhelm will have likely killed the guard or caused someone new to be assigned OR unless you triggered it yonks ago and didn't realize it and you'll have to talk to the steward Jorleif.

if this part of the quest wont trigger, wander around the houses until you find one called Hjerim

pick the lock and investigate inside really really good

trust me. you're not skipping much of the quest. I swear.

then go talk to Jorleif, Ulfric's former steward and also still steward

this will trigger a later portion of the quest

UNLESS other quest related NPCs died in the battle for Windhelm

hint: once you go to Hjerim go talk to a guard about the strange things you found in there - if he doesn't send you to someone who might be able to help you, it's still borqued and you're just gonna have to read the wiki information you're resistant to because you don't want spoilers... or... you could make a new character and just start over

You just ruined my game...you're so mean!

That sounds like the start of a bad joke: "OK, so a dead body, a priest, and two witnesses go into this bar and..."