so pretty much everyone knows of the exploit where you train with someone, ice shout them, freezing them, and then pickpocketing them as they get up after they thaw and they don't catch you, 100% success rate, it's almost the only way to pickpocket the large amount (like 20k). well this apparently doesn't work on all NPC's, because when i do it to the archery trainer in the thieves guild, no one notices but when i do it to the 1h trainer the orc in that camp, everyone attacks me...so which can you do it to and which can't you?

I'm pretty sure that you have to be allied with the would-be exploited NPC. Just be sure they greet you with terminology such as, "You've been a good friend to me," or something along those lines.

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I will move this now.

um how is anything in the OP a spoiler haha..

It's an exploit therefore falls victim under the category of "cheat."

I don't really see how this ha anything to do with spoilers, just a small exploit...

I see people talk about exploits in the general section all the time. But it's not a big deal I gues.

Seriously, if you're going to exploit NPC behaviour like that, you may as well just open the console and give yourself skillups.