Let's talk about Thane

Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:02 pm

First the definition:
thane/THān/
Noun:
  • (in Anglo-Saxon England) A man who held land granted by the king or by a military nobleman, ranking between an ordinary freeman and a...
  • (in Scotland) A man, often the chief of a clan, who held land from a Scottish king and ranked with an earl's son.
thane (commonly), thegn
1. (in Anglo-Saxon England) a member of an aristocratic class, ranking below an ealdorman, whose status was hereditary and who held land from the king or from another nobleman in return for certain services
2. (in medieval Scotland)
a. a person of rank, often the chief of a clan, holding land from the king
b. a lesser noble who was a Crown official holding authority over an area of land
Becoming Thane in Skyrim is fairly easy in my opinion.. One thing sticks in my craw though..
being the Thane of a hold allows you to avoid being arrested for a crime under 3000 gold in that hold by reminding the guards of your status when they arrive, but only once.

http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Thane

So basically giving you free reign to be as illegal as you want to.. and... Giving you a babysitter as well..

In some of the large holds, you will also receive a http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Followers#Housecarls.

In http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viking_Age, housecarls (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse_language: húskarlar, singular húskarl; also anglicised as huscarl (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English form) and sometimes spelled huscarle or houscarl) were either non-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_medieval_Europe manservants, or household troops in personal service of someone, equivalent to a http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bodyguard to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavia lords and kings. This institution also existed in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_England after its http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anglo-Saxon_England#England_under_the_Danes_and_the_Norman_conquest_.28978.E2.80.931066.29 in the 11th century. In England, the royal housecarls had a number of roles, both military and administrative; they are well-known for having fought under http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Godwinson at the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Hastings. The original http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse_language term, húskarl, literally means "house man"; see also the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_English_language term http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Churl or ceorl, whose root is the same as the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Old_Norse karl, and which also means "a man, a non-servile peasant".http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housecarl#cite_note-0


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Housecarl


I'm not sure why the need for this Title and bodyguard.. In fact just looking up the definition is making me laugh.. I don't want or need a bodyguard and I don't want free reign to be some sort of mass murdering thief and then shout that "I am Thane so don't arrest me!"

Thoughts?
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Melung Chan
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 7:17 am

than don't become one. if you do the main quest, you can't avoid becoming one in whiterun, but you don't need to become one in the other towns, too....
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Dylan Markese
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 12:35 pm

The excuse only works once anyways.
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Sheeva
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 10:52 pm

I like that you get rewarded for helping a region and as mentioned above nobody forces you to do the quests.
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Zoe Ratcliffe
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:50 am

I want my house to myself, so when I get to the point where I have to return to the Jarl to get the title, I just leave him or her waiting.
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Anthony Diaz
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 6:59 am

I just ran out the back door of Dragon reach, thusly avoiding Lydia and her forced conversation.. We shall see how long this lasts .. -lol-
I'll wait and see just how long she stands there...
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 2:36 pm

I got tired of sharing Breezehome with Lydia, so I took her to the Blades. I really wish there was an option to turn down the body guard.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 8:15 am

I do too.. Maybe a mod will be in order.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 11:19 am

I kind of imagined her as a natural fit if you follow the questline. Not bad to have a follower on the way to High Hrothgar. I've played it without one, and the Snow Troll is a tough fight solo. Also, I sort of just imagine Lydia pointing out where High Hrothgar is in the first place.

After awhile yeah, she's a good candidate for the Blades. Problem solved, if you don't want her around.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:01 pm

Probably missing the point here, but you could simply have it in your head that your character doesn't much care for the title or the bodyguard, despite the Jarl's insistence. They're there, but they don't have to tail behind your dragonborn all of the time if at all. Likewise, you don't have to say you're the Thane when you get caught. The whole thing practically doesn't even have to exist if you don't like the option.

This might not be true, but as I recall, no one in the entire hold but your housecarl and the Jarl even recognizes you as a thane so long as you're not in trouble with any guards. Doesn't seem so imposing, imo.
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 4:34 pm

First rule of Thane club

You don't talk about Thane club
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Quick Draw
 
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Post » Mon Jun 04, 2012 3:24 pm

Two houses, two tough Nords guarding all my kit. Can't see the hardship myself.
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