Illusion!

Restoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise.

I love you Colette.

Restoration was only valid in Oblivion... where it briefly adopted the Absorb Health spell from Mysticism... before losing it down the back of the couch or something.

Well, it was useful in Morrowind too.... along with the target glitch... for fortifying everything into the stratosphere.

In Skyrim though? Restoration isn't half as good as just not getting hurt in the first place.

conjuration:
bandit: your out numbered
You: (dual cast 2 storm astronachs,and two bound blades(with perk) to gain tons of souls)
Use souls to enchant armor to make better alchemy to make potion that make you better at enchanting...
Enchanting number 2
i have been dabbling in other because i am arch mage thought it was ridiculous to not be good at anything else
really wish i had silent casting though would have felt awesome casting summons from nowhere to attach unsuspecting villagers

Nice one! Yes Illusion seems to be FUN.

On a side note, does someone know what the Courage spell is for? I haven't quite figured it out yet.

It's about taste. I just like to heal up.

So many effects were removed none of the schools have the same appeal anymore. But I guess I'll go with conjuration since I've always liked summoner characters.

I like to heal up at the expense of others.
Thankfully we still have an Absorb Health enchantment... BUT it does kinda render Restoration a bit pointless if you use those.

http://www.gamesas.com/index.php?/topic/1312501-the-way-of-the-artificer I have no need of any other magic school*, for this school is the power of aetherius manifest



*except for alteration... or rather mysticism. Mysticism/Enchantment is the meaning of life.

illusion seems like the only school that is usefull later levels on my pure Mage i took every skill except illusion and my pure Mage is at 40+ and is having alot of trouble conjuration and destruction need better scaling and alteration master spells are useless

Illusion. I like the subtle stuff. Plus, the more in-your-face stuff feels a bit ... lame? nerdy? (Because this is likely to attract flamers, I'll point out: This is just an opinion ...)

While I wouldn't call it a magic school so much as a related skill.... I really do agree. Entirely. Totally. And utterly.

I just miss the perma-spells caused by the target glitch in Morrowind. Good times.

You don't need to do this, it's so boring having 0% magicka consumption, makes the game to easy. I use ~90% magicka consumption, so I can cast a good few spells but not endlessly stagger the enemy. I play on master, using destruction and I don't feel the need to have free spells, I like having to plan using spells so I don't run out of magicka. Or maybe kiting around the enemy to restore some magicka.

Wrong again, I'm level 59 and I dual cast the basic fear/calm/fear spells on everything that isn't immune (dragons etc). You just need the right perks (on the right side of the illusion tree).

Wrong. Conjures get the same bonus to health/damage that enemies do when you change the difficulty. On master they are very powerful, when you get the expert spells and the master spells, you can sit back and watch your conjures do the work for you. To the extent of conjuring 2 dremora lords, and they clear a room of draugr deathlords on master.

So yeah, your wrong.

Illusion is one of the most useful skill trees for a mage you almost have to have it.

We need the old spells back and we need spell creation, then magic can be great again as it is its a shallow and pathetic interpretation of what it used to be.

Since we didn't actually choose major skills in Skyrim, I was interested to see how my choices would actually go when I simply used whatever I felt I needed depending on the situation I faced. I was only a little surprised that Alteration was a preferred option for me. I am using Alteration, Destruction and Conjuration along with Restoration. My favorite spell is anything Conjuration since I'd prefer to not fight unless I have to...although I enjoy the dragon battles. My dual-cast, double augmented Firebolt spell can handle almost anything I've run into so far.

Illusion seems to be the school I neglect and I think it's because I have a problem getting the spells to work at all. The spell I have is usually not powerful enough to handle the enemy and so I don't try using it much after that. It'll be something I can work on in another play-through and I think it'll be an even more pacifist-type character. That's one that's percolating in the back of my mind.

Depends greatly on the kind of mage I am playing. Illusion is extremely powerful if you focus heavily on it. Other than dragons, there is really little else you can't simply calm and quietly slit their throats.

Alteration probably ends up being my "favorite" simply because I use it for every mage type character.

I suppose it says plenty about personality differences.
When I started playing the game naturally... I went straight for destruction spells... and then eventually resorted to pulling out a bow. Not sure why a bow, but I went for the bow. I then got training in Illusion until I could get Invisibility... and used that constantly. Also the Aura Whisper shout....
My modus operandi is and always is to be a sneaky spellcaster...


Fun fact: I've barely ever used Alteration or Restoration. I usually forget they exist now. Totally. Haven't used them since Morrowind, when they could actually do useful things like boost jump height (see signature) and Levitate.
Conjuration is something I've forced myself into since, but I didn't use it on my original character besides for soul-trapping (which is still Mysticism to me).

I love the silent spell caster. I have always liked the Nightblade build. I go one handed, destruction, illusion, alchemy, enchanting, sneak, and the bow. The cross classes builds allow you to experience a mix of styles and I have always liked the diversity I have gotten from that.

My Nightblade does not use conjuration because he doe snot believe in profaning the dead by tearing them from Oblivion.

You don't need to do this, it's so boring having 0% magicka consumption, makes the game to easy. I use ~90% magicka consumption, so I can cast a good few spells but not endlessly stagger the enemy. I play on master, using destruction and I don't feel the need to have free spells, I like having to plan using spells so I don't run out of magicka. Or maybe kiting around the enemy to restore some magicka.

I agree but this is boring way to play destruction needs to scale


Wrong again, I'm level 59 and I dual cast the basic fear/calm/fear spells on everything that isn't immune (dragons etc). You just need the right perks (on the right side of the illusion tree).

he was talking about the perk to have it effect automans,dragur, dremora without perks it justs doesn't effect those creatures and you see dragur in practically every dungeon


Wrong. Conjures get the same bonus to health/damage that enemies do when you change the difficulty. On master they are very powerful, when you get the expert spells and the master spells, you can sit back and watch your conjures do the work for you. To the extent of conjuring 2 dremora lords, and they clear a room of draugr deathlords on master.

really does this work? cause in adept my master conjurer thralls and dremora lords get 1 hit by dragur deathlords and wouldn't they have the same ratio of health/attack

But it is ok if it is "Ancestor-Worship" and not necromancy.

Destruction
Its just my style I guess...

The Dunmer had their own beliefs on necromancy and what they did they did not consider necromancy.

The Ghost Fence is a compilation of their ancestors souls and they had their own personal Ghost Fences: also my character is a Dunmer Nightblade.

Well its not, destruction does plenty of damage already, I do 220 damage per dual cast of incinerate, thats without a +destruction potion. I think they could improve the effectiveness of the destruction perks, so instead of +50% damage it could be +100% like all the other combat skills.

I don't think he was.. You just need to have that perk to be able to use illusion on those enemies, illusion isn't a difficult skill to level.

You can get a perk that increases the effectiveness of atronachs (including dremora lords) by 50%. I'm not sure how they are dying so easily for you, they are very powerful, 2 dremora lords can kill anything for me. This is on master, but it should be the same on any difficult because summons scale depending on your game difficulty.

Illusion doesn't effect undead or daedra until you get it to 90 (or 100 can't remember), and ALSO have the "master of the mind" perk. It is still very poweful though, because at least half of the things you fight are human. And after you get that perk, it works on everything. I think Illusion is the most powerful spell school in the game. Even with the nerfs to it after Oblivion.

note: THIS DOES NOT MEAN IT SHOULD BE NERFED AGAIN FOR ES VI!! PLEASE DON'T!

Conjuration. There could've been a few more summons, if you ask me, but I just love using them to lure enemies away from my squishy Mage.

Illusion: Perfect for my Assassin! Stay hidden and let the enemies fight each other. Sooth dangerous bears ect. to not get shredded into pieces. Can't wait for level 90 so that he can also calm and enrage undead and mechanic beings.