DO I need to decide between the Imperials or Stormcloaks?

Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:49 pm

If so how?!

The stormcloaks are up themselves and are also Racist towards, practically most races that aren't Norn. The Empire is beyond stupid and actually is trying to become allies with the Thalmor(I think)!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:59 pm

You don't have to do either and in my opinion it's better if you don't. I did the legion and it was an amazingly boring and repetitive campaign and afterward most people in Skyrim didn't seem to realise the war was over, which was immersion breaking. In future games I won't do either.
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Colton Idonthavealastna
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:28 am

My character is strictly neutral. Hasn't affected the game at all for me yet.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:53 am

This should be in the http://www.gamesas.com/forum/178-skyrim-cheats-hints-and-spoilers/.. A mod will move it there.

To answer your question:
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No you don't have to pick a side. Not to finish the main quest. You can stay neutral in the conflict without it affecting much in the game.

One case where you must choose a side is to become Thane of Windhelm, and to puchase the house in that town.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:02 am

join the dark side luke!
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:13 pm

If you don't want to take sides, make sure you don't
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kill parthunaax before the peace meeting is over.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 7:11 pm

We've been over this before. The Stormcloaks are not racist and the Imperials are not allying with the Thalmor, especially after the Great War.

First the Stormcloaks. There are quite literally two drunk sods shouting insults and the Dunmer. It is most definitely not an official Stormcloak position; it's just more traditionalist folk are drawn toward Ulfric's banner, what with Talos worship and so forth. These people happen to hate the Dunmer because of wars with Morrowind over Solstheim and other territorial claims, because they are Mer (and in the mind of these simple peasant folk Mer = Elf = Thalmor) and because they are Daedra worshippers. Plus, the Stormcloaks are willing to let you in if you fight for Skyrim's future. And not to mention the fact the Dunmer do nothing to pull themselves out of the gutter, as Niranye says - she had it worse off anyway, being Altmer, but she earned their trust.

And the Imperials aren't allies of the Thalmor. Literally nobody kicked up a fuss about Talos before Ulfric, because the Empire was lenient and never upheld the law. Since Ulfric started the war he attracted the attention of the Thalmor, who actually enforce the Talos ban with their Justiciars. What the Empire is doing is building up their strength to fight a second war, but that's complicated by Ulfric. Also... The Imperials also aren't saints. Look up the definition of 'Empire.' The provinces of the Empire are, very simplified, colonies. There's opportunities for the natives, sure, but the center of society is an elite culture of Imperials.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:27 pm

The whole Stormcloaks vs Imperials thing has not been done as well as it should have. The Imperials seem to loosely based on a Roman model and the Stormcloaks are the barbarians. I have joined in with the Stormcloaks my problem is the quests throw enemy legionaries at you in a quantity over quality manner.They almost seem to lay down and die just because I give um a nasty look and as for there swords and arrows they may as well be using tooth picks. For a faction based on the Romans I would expect them to put up a stiffer fight that would add some challenge to the quests.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 5:18 pm

Both sides of the civil war are like that dude. It's not very fleshed out.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:23 am

There are a few things that you simple can't do without fighting the fight. You can't get the house in Windhelm without it.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:09 am

There are a few things that you simple can't do without fighting the fight. You can't get the house in Windhelm without it.
And that would be about the only thing that you can't do without chosing a side, isn't it?
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:23 am

Nothing you decide in the entire game has any real effect on anything, you can flip a coin and what ever path you go ends the same.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 12:19 pm

This is perfect for me then too. I don't care about the house in Windhelm or living there because of the racism. By allowing the segregation, it's an endorsemant of it and that's just how I see it. I believe in holding the empire together because it'll be important to everyone who wants to prevent the Thalmor from winning. A stronger empire will be more likely to win against the Thalmor. A house divided will not stand and all. The problems with the empire and the civil war in Skyrim can be worked out (throwing out the White-Gold Concordat) and after some changes in leadership, but I don't want the empire to fail. So I don't have to choose. Wonderful. :) :tes:
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 8:54 pm

The empire are not allies to the Thalmor - they are thralls.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 10:40 am

If so how?!

The stormcloaks are up themselves and are also Racist towards, practically most races that aren't Norn. The Empire is beyond stupid and actually is trying to become allies with the Thalmor(I think)!
The Empire isn't trying to ally with the Thalmor; it was an act of desperation. Either give them this small victory or let them wipe out all mankind and have their ultimate victory.

Either way you look at it, the alliance won't last for long. The Aldmeri Dominion and the Thalmor want nothing other than to destroy all mankind so they can go back to the way things were before Nirn was created. The elves were originally part of the spirit world and they want to go back. They view existence on Nirn as a curse. This is why they banned worship of Talos. They believe that only elves should be able to reach divinity, not men.

I think that there is some major event that is about to unfold, so in the long run, the choice that the player makes here probably doesn't really matter. The choice the player is left with here between the Empire and the Stormcloaks creates a hugely different outcome. Some major event must be about to happen that will overshadow the entire civil war and basically make the whole thing pointless.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:50 pm

Join whichever side you identify with. If you identify with neither side, then join neither side.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:07 am

This is perfect for me then too. I don't care about the house in Windhelm or living there because of the racism. By allowing the segregation, it's an endorsemant of it and that's just how I see it. I believe in holding the empire together because it'll be important to everyone who wants to prevent the Thalmor from winning. A stronger empire will be more likely to win against the Thalmor. A house divided will not stand and all. The problems with the empire and the civil war in Skyrim can be worked out (throwing out the White-Gold Concordat) and after some changes in leadership, but I don't want the empire to fail. So I don't have to choose. Wonderful. :) :tes:

The segregation is necessary. What would happen with argonians and Dunmer in close quarters?
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Lewis Morel
 
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 9:27 am

Ulfric is a total [censored], but I feel like have to choose them because of the whole religion thing. If the dunmer and orcs are allowed to worship evil daedra, the nords should be allowed to worship their god.

Still, I like most of the Imperials. I felt bad when the disposed Jarls treated me like a traitor during my first play through. I was their Thane and then kicked them out. Sad.
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