Prices way out of wack?

Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:59 am

Speechcraft is fairly worthless.

Only if your inventory is worthless. A 5 septim piece of cloth that fetches you 2 septims with a low speech skill or 5 with a high skill isn't very much good. Dealing with objects that are 8,000 septims is when it comes in handy!
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Makenna Nomad
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:39 pm

Only if your inventory is worthless. A 5 septim piece of cloth that fetches you 2 septims with a low speech skill or 5 with a high skill isn't very much good. Dealing with objects that are 8,000 septims is when it comes in handy!
The problem that they're complaining is about somehow they are aquiring large amounts of cash... Mind giving me some? I'm level 30 and still dead-broke.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:21 pm

With 100 speech I can actually turn a profit from all of those thousands of iron arrows I find.

Also Fence doesn't work the way it says it does on the perk screen. You can sell stolen items to any merchant regardless of whether or not you've invested in them. Not that I'm complaining. :biggrin:
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:10 am

Well, the markup/markdown is a bit excessive in Skyrim, but anybody does the same thing in the real world. If you sell something to a retailer of used goods, they're gonna give you less than what they're gonna resell it for, or they wouldn't be in business.
My question for the whole loop is always like this:

If merchants always buy low and sell high,
Can I be a merchant as well?

Because, as it currently stands, there is no way to RP as a merchant in Skyrim (and in Oblivion too). You can't go any farther than being a mere supplier

I find it a bit confusing :/
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:42 am

LoL @ people worried about prices. I've haggled so much loot, I'm starting to actually not even need to pick items up unless I want them for my collection. At a certain point, prices don't even matter and all that is worth selling are jewels and potions.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:30 am

LoL @ people worried about prices. I've haggled so much loot, I'm starting to actually not even need to pick items up unless I want them for my collection. At a certain point, prices don't even matter and all that is worth selling are jewels and potions.

Lol @ high level people Loling at low level people. You need the cash at low levels, training, equipment, potions, these things eat up gold at low levels.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:18 am

Once at the very beggining I accidentally sold a my favorite weapon. I got like 200 golf for it. I had to buy it back though because I didn't want to lose it and loading a prior save was not an option. I payed something like 1500 gold for it. When your that early in the game 1500 gold is a ton of gold. Now it'd be no problem since I have 50 or 60 thousand gold and have absolutely nothing to do with it. I give it to drunks whenever possible. Also every once in a while a merchant will have something deadric and I'll buy it.

I kinda wish there was more you can do with your money. Like mini games! I love mini games. I always think its where the devs get to have fun and do something cool and crazy.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:29 am

I'm almost (not quite completely) glad they'll buy anything at all, because it appears that in the world of Skyrim the player is the only customer for all the merchants in all the towns. Everyone else must be broke. The bandits and merchants between them must have most all the money out of circulation, doing the hoarding thing.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:59 am

I'm almost (not quite completely) glad they'll buy anything at all, because it appears that in the world of Skyrim the player is the only customer for all the merchants in all the towns. Everyone else must be broke. The bandits and merchants between them must have most all the money out of circulation, doing the hoarding thing.

Can't be, where do you think they get the 1000+ Septims everyday? Its not like there are any banks in Skyrim.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:56 am

Lol @ high level people Loling at low level people. You need the cash at low levels, training, equipment, potions, these things eat up gold at low levels.
Maybe you need that stuff, but the only thing I spent any money on was houses and horses. Everyone has a different style, but I really don't see a need to buy anything from the merchants or trainers. The prices are a rip off and they always sell the worst equiptment in the game. Maybe potions are worth buying, but I still found way more than I needed.
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Post » Tue Jun 05, 2012 11:00 pm

The inherent ripoff factor is rather extreme at the start, you're paying roughly 3x value while getting roughly 1/3 value. I'll be overhauling trading once the CK is released, as I hate getting ripped off, and I always perk out Speech on my characters in order to minimize that.

I can see why they did it, what with the sheer quantity of loot that's out there waiting to be hauled out of tombs and ruins, however the problems with the model become glaringly apparent when you start selling things worth 1,000 or more. Until you get a high Speech skill you lose massive amounts of money on each such sale, but at the same time you need those sales to raise your Speech skill since you can't get very far on dialogue checks alone. In addition, buying crafting supplies will clean out your entire inventory and then some, although once you can make the best stuff it's worth enough, even unupgraded, that you only need to sell a couple of them to cover the costs.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:03 am

Yep. That's a "welcome to real world commerce" to the OP.
I really hope your not serious, car depreciation does not work like that, at all. Oh the irony. :P
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:32 am

Well,it's "real world" economics in that if you sell to a middle man, you're getting less than what the middle man will sell it to a buyer for.

Here's the thing though - just what do you need the $$$ for, anyway? For the most part, only houses and their furniture. You can find just about all the other [censored] you need. Armor? Weapons? Potions? Those are all available in sufficient quantities as plunder. The only thing I can think off offhand that you might actually need to buy might be cure disease potions. Healing potions are fairly common as loot, and if you need more they're easily produced via alchemy even by novice alchemists. Diseases do crop up more often than do cure disease potions, however, so you might once in a blue moon need to buy one or two cure disease potions.

Other than that, however, you don't need to buy a damn thing. Sell the [censored] you find as plunder, buy houses, and that's it.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:11 am

All speech is good for is making/saving gold. It is already too easy to become ridiculously rich and there is nothing to buy anyway. By the time your speech got to a high level you would already be too rich to care.
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