Any way to kickstart "words of power" quests?

Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:59 pm

Arngier won't tell me where the words of power are. I've completed his "Way of the Voice" and even the "Horn of Jurgen Windcaller" quest, so I should be at the correct point in the game by now. However, he just doesn't have the option to talk about words of power at all.

I'm on PC, so I can console or mod if I need to. I've tried disable/enable on him to see if that would work, but it didn't help. Any thoughts on this? I really like these quests and would like to go word hunting.

Thanks in advance to anyone that knows anything.
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Vahpie
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:13 am

Silly question, but have you picked gone through all the other dialogue options Arngeir has? That's supposedly caused some problems with Arngeir off the quest.
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Hayley Bristow
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:20 pm

I have selected every option he has. Several times each, just to be sure.
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abi
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:00 am

Hmmm, poking around there's a lot of things saying he just doesn't offer the quest but no real solutions. Using the console to force it doesn't work since I just tried that with the setstage command. Only thing I can think of is that he won't offer you shouts if you have them all, or at least all of them that are obtainable without interfering in a questline for the main quest or the Companions/Thieves Guild/College of Winterhold/Dark Brotherhood. >:
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Joe Alvarado
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:14 pm

I've never got those from Arngeir. The times I've had a toon actively hunting word walls (three total I think) I've just had the courier show up with the letter from a friend shortly after using a shout anywhere - in fact, I've never even had to use them in a town to have the courier arrive. Using shouts in dungeons seemed to work just fine.

[NB: I am patched ONLY to 1.4.21 - so YMMV....]
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Jimmie Allen
 
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:19 am

Check your Misc. quest list and make sure you don't already have a " find the source of power in..... " quest. they won't give you another if you already have one.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:30 am

If most of the locations are discovered already he won't give you any more.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:42 pm

Check your Misc. quest list and make sure you don't already have a " find the source of power in..... " quest. they won't give you another if you already have one.
If most of the locations are discovered already he won't give you any more.

Neither of these is the case, but I thank you for the good ideas. I don't have such a quest, nor does the dialogue option even show up when you talk to him.

Also, I only have a few words of power. A couple that I stumbled upon, plus the basic ones that the Greybeards teach. Nothing more.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:49 am

have you killed paarthanux? if you have they wont give you any new words to find.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:12 pm

If you want to use the console try ~setstage FreeformHighHrothgarA 10
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:36 pm

have you killed paarthanux? if you have they wont give you any new words to find.
If you want to use the console try ~setstage FreeformHighHrothgarA 10

Both excellent thoughts. Parthurnaax is alive and well, I've made sure of it. I prefer it that way anyway, so that I can change my meditation word.

Also, I have used this command. While it does in fact start the quest, it does not update Arngeir with the dialogue. Even if I complete the quest and find the word, he won't give me a new one. I'm really confuddled by this.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 6:42 pm

the best way that i have found to get power word quests is to visit inns and palaces.

eventually they will give you the quest to kill a dragon at such and such place.

also many ruins have words of power so quest through those too.

there are word walls by Meridia shrine, in the DB santuary and at at least one forsworn redoubt.
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Post » Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:17 pm

I'm working from memory on this, but considering that I just kicked this off a couple of days ago, it should be pretty close to what should be happening.

After completing the "Horn of Jurgen Windcaller" quest and receiving the greeting of the Graybeards, Arngier should have a dialogue option that says something to the effect of "I want to learn more about the Voice" or somesuch. Following up on that thread leads to the Words of Power missions.

As far as I know, there are only a handful of conditions where Arngier will not point you to Words of Power.
  • If you have found all of the available Word Walls (apparently not the case)
  • If you have killed Paarthunax (apparently not the case)
  • (Maybe) if you weren't properly deferential to him during the "Way of the Voice" quest, but I doubt it
I've run into a couple of instances where he would not cough up a location because I already had a "Letter from a Friend" pointing me to the location of the Word Wall he was going to give me.

But I'm getting the impression from the OP's initial post that the option to ask about Word Walls isn't there at all rather than getting the "all is silent" kind of reply to the question. If that is the case, I'd look at whether the "Way of the Voice" quest terminated properly (the final state should be 160 according to the UESP wiki). I'm doubtful of that since the "Horn of Jurgen Windcaller" quest apparently finished (you did get the Horn from Delphine and take it back to Arngier, right?). If the Horn quest terminated properly, its state should be 60 and you should have the final piece of "Unrelenting Force". If all of those conditions are true, I'm well and truly stumped.

EDIT: The OP said that Paarthunax was alive and well -- that's a different quest that cannot happen until Delphine and Esbern are at Sky Haven, I think. Is it possible that the Words of Power dialogue options disappear at that point if they haven't been used? I'm doubtful on that point, but it's a possibility.
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