I went to Riverwood, did the stuff there to get the quest to go to Whiterun, but skipped town and went to riften instead. I spoke to Brynolf, did "Doing Business" or whatever it's called, then got the quest "Loud and Clear". I listened to all the dialogue, went to go and speak to Vex for the optional point and I got no dialogue options with her, she just told me to go and speak to Brynjolf. I went to Tonilia, thinking I needed to get the guild armour first, I have no option to ask for it, she acts like I need to speak to Brynolf still, I went and spoke to Delvin, and he gives me an option to ask about the quest or to train me in sneaking. I went and did the quest anyway, and when I got back they were still acting the same way, like I needed to talk to Brynolf still.
Rather annoyed, I started over and spent yesterday doing every quest in Riften and most in Whiterun, I went to the Thieves Guild just now, and I have the exact same problem as I did yesterday.
If it makes a difference (though I don't see why it would), I have wiped out the dark brotherhood and still haven't spoken to the Jarl of Whiterun.

