No if anyone bothered to read my OP i stated choose a deity that you Revere as in the 1 you like the most and you get a bonus. It does not say you cant also worship some others but everybody has a favorite

But the idea of "favorites" is already being implemented by you picking the bonus you want by praying at a particular shrine or wearing an amulet. You're free to change these at any time and aren't forced into having one always be your favorite. What if you decided your character felt forsaken by Akatosh and instead started following Arkay? You couldn't role with that idea with your system because characters would still act as though you revered Akatosh above all others. That's where the problem lies.

You can still pray at altars and wear amulets. It does not take away. All you do is piss on my ideas. You dont like em then [censored] off because you are bringing me down

What's he's actually saying is that we would pick one whom we are most devout to.

From an RP aspect, those who worship Stendarr WOULDNT worship deadra.
Of course we can worship whoever, you can do a you like, but we can't truly worship anyone.

We can wear an amulet, pray, or do favours for the deadra.

The OP's idea Could make this more, adding more things towards worship, making it more than just wearing an amulet.

I am not expecting this to EVER be added by Beth or even viewed by them. It is merely an idea i had that i liked and wanted to share in case it inspired someone else to use for a Mod or something

What is your problem? I'm telling you a particular problem I see with your idea and you take it so personally. I'm not attacking you so don't get defensive.

I find your idea restrictive because if people are going to react to the fact that you hold allegiance to a particular deity, you cannot ever change that allegiance, which I feel is restrictive. If you've ever had a crisis of faith, you'd understand that your beliefs are not completely set in stone, and you may discover another system of beliefs is right for you. With the current system (i.e. the ability to get blessings both from amulets and from praying at shrines), you are free to change your beliefs whenever you wish. You can always be a loyal follower of Mara, or you can decide to follow Arkay instead.

However, under your system, you would be locked with a favorite from the moment of character creation. If you carried this through with extra dialogue options and whatnot, you would no longer be able to role play as someone who has a crisis of faith (Like say Erandur or Shavee [though that's more a crisis of morality]) because characters would still react as though you served whatever god you chose to follow when you started out. That's the problem I have with this idea. I'm not opposed to the concept, but the implementation right now would be very rough and unrefined.

So let's try to fix that: You can pick a different "favorite" god whenever you choose. However, in order to prove your loyalty and receive their blessing, you must go on some sort of quest related to the god in question (i.e. Defeating a powerful Lich in the name of Arkay). You'd then have access to that higher blessing permanently (though only one at a time) by praying at the main shrine where you received the quest (Mara's Temple in Riften for example). The major requirement here is that there would need to be more major shrines to the gods throughout Skyrim.

Alternatively, we could just get more "Agent of ______" quests like the ones we currently have for Mara and Dibella.

Or better yet dont submit to the ideal and leave it be

So you're not even going to attempt to have a dialogue about your idea and how it could be effectively implemented?

Like I said, I think it's a good idea. It just needs some work.

nope i am done arguing, my cranium is throbbing and i dont need to discuss something if it will never come to exist. As i stated it is merely an ideal and is only meant for inspiration to others

No, not everybody. My Bosmer was an atheist when she came to Skyrim, now she's a Champion of Boethiah and took a liking to Clavicus Vile. If I had to choose my favourite deity at the beginning of the game, I would be stuck with "none" for the entire game. It would be a lie, because my character changed her mind and the game wouldn't see it.

I don't want to curb your enthusiasm, really. All I'm trying to say is that your system isn't flexible enough for my needs. Maybe if you modified it to suit a wider range of players? The main issue is: what if my character loses faith? Or decides to worship someone else? How will the game react to this?
Answer this, and your idea might just work.

Also, don't be discouraged if people don't agree with you. Everybody has a different vision of what role-playing is and what their game should look like - you can't please everyone. We showed you what we think are the weaknesses of your idea, now you can come up with something to make up for them. To make your idea work

Yeah, or maybe +5% experience gain for science. You'll be hacking those expert terminals in no time... wait...


There is no need for this outburst. You posted your idea on a discussion board, people are going to discuss it. Your idea has good points and bad points, and whether or not it gets implemented is neither here nor there. By posting your idea here, you are asking for the opinions of others, that is all REL has been doing. He is right when he says there are problems with your idea, but you are unwilling to hear anything bad said about it. With outbursts like yours, you're more likely to get your own thread locked than anything else.

It would need the corollary negatives though, that weren't outlined, if you really wanted to make it a more immersive system.
Perhaps not negatives, but trade-offs... down sides. While you get the nifty, permanent bonuses, you also have to understand that:

1) Praying at shrines of figures of adoration other than your chosen will not result in any blessings / cure disease / etc.
2) Amulets / Weapons / Armor imbued with the power of a specific supernatural figure other than your chosen will have no effects / bonuses / enchantments for you.
3) Selecting someone like Hircine or Nocturnal would automatically make the V of Stendarr attack on sight.
4) Quests from other figures of adoration will not be available (why would Boethia ask a devout, blinders-on, follower of Mara to become his champion through a quest?).