Quick question for Bosmer roleplaying

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:23 pm

Ok so i just made a bosmer from Valenwood. I already have the ring of namira so I can eat people, and I know wood elves never eat any vegetables. I was wondering though, can bosmer eat mushrooms like bleeding crown? Mushrooms are fungi, not vegetables, but it's not from an animal either, so does it count? I'm sort of new to bosmer backstory, so if anyone has any idea please let me know!
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elliot mudd
 
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:44 pm

I believe that the only plants that bosmer can't use are those from their home province of valenwood because I know they import wood from other provinces for their homes. www.uesp.net has a lot of good lore check the wood elf / Bosmer page there
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:23 pm

Hey, now that's a good question. Got them on a technicality there.

Although, I think it's not so much that they're not allowed to eat vegetables, but that they're only allowed to eat meat. I would think they wouldn't eat fungi simply because it's not meat. Doesn't matter what else it might be, it's not meat, so they can't or won't eat it. Does that make any sense at all?

Now, as far harvesting Skyrim's vegetation for any other reason, that's perfectly fine. The Green Pact only applies to Valenwood's ecosystem. So cutting firewood or using wooden bows is fine as long as no Valenwood trees were harmed. I'm not sure if the same goes for eating outside plants; it seems like the Meat Mandate might be universal. But a native Bosmer would probably be so used to eating meat that he wouldn't even be able to stomach greens even if he wanted to.

Here's an interesting little excerpt from the first PGE that might help:

"No less abhorrent are the Bosmer than their kin at Summerset, but they are far more cooperative. The Wood Elves love the current human activity because it makes them feel important.

"They are exclusively and religiously carnivorous. They cannot, or will not, eat anything that is plant-based. They eat game, beastfolk, each other, or meats imported from other regions. This part of the Green Pact is known as the Meat Mandate, and, among its other rules, it requires that a fallen enemy must be eaten completely before three days pass. The family members of the warrior that slew the enemy may help him with his meal. Needless to say, the Wood Elves do not like to engage in large battles if they have not undergone a suitable starvation period.

"Though they are excellent archers, the Green Pact forces their bowyers and fletchers to use bone or similar materials, or to buy bows and arrows from other cultures. The use of woodcrafts created by another race is not forbidden, nor is the sale of their own Valenwood timber as long as it is collected by a non-Bosmeri.

"The Wood Elves, of course, cannot smoke anything of a vegetable nature. Bone pipes are common, however, and are filled with caterpillars or tree grubs.

"For a brief time the Colovian armies used Wood Elf archers, as in the War of Rihad two years past. The Bosmer proved to be too undisciplined and prone to desertion for further use. They would sometimes walk into the shade of a single tree and vanish. Their forest-coupling skills are remarkable. The title of their most famous poem, the Meh Ayleidion, means "The One Thousand Benefits of Hiding."

"At the trading posts of the Empire, the Wood Elves become very happy. Some creations of carpentry delight them to no end. Most of it has never occurred to them. They bring their own trade items: hides, river pearls, finger-bone charms made from the still-magically-charged hands of their dead wizards. They often buy woodcrafts that they have no use for or whose use they never bother to find out. Some of the bravest Wood Elven warriors use wagon wheels as shields, or as (they think) impressive headgear.

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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:23 pm

Well they drink milk too. They ferment it into an alcohol called jagga. So maybe it's just animal products?
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Post » Sat Jun 16, 2012 12:30 am

Hey, now that's a good question. Got them on a technicality there.

Although, I think it's not so much that they're not allowed to eat vegetables, but that they're only allowed to eat meat. I would think they wouldn't eat fungi simply because it's not meat. Doesn't matter what else it might be, it's not meat, so they can't or won't eat it. Does that make any sense at all?

Now, as far harvesting Skyrim's vegetation for any other reason, that's perfectly fine. The Green Pact only applies to Valenwood's ecosystem. So cutting firewood or using wooden bows is fine as long as no Valenwood trees were harmed. I'm not sure if the same goes for eating outside plants; it seems like the Meat Mandate might be universal. But a native Bosmer would probably be so used to eating meat that he wouldn't even be able to stomach greens even if he wanted to.

Here's an interesting little excerpt from the first PGE that might help:
Well there's your answer I'm not quite a bosmer expert just know a little from reading lore pages and the books in the game.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:18 pm

You could also become
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a werewolf
to simulate the Wild Hunt.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:41 pm

You could also become
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a werewolf
to simulate the Wild Hunt.

That was my FIRST THOUGHT! But unfortunetly, once you engage in the wild hunt you can't go back. So goes the legend anyway, and the wild hunt monsters are almost Lovecraftian in nature
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:23 pm

They never killed there own people,or any other people or race just to eat.They are very much meat eaters but I think they can also eat any plant life from any other province outside of Valenwood.

I think this conception,or maybe missconception of them being cannables comes from the the fact that they do eat all of the dead on the battle field.
This was a bloody and gorgefull feast that they reluctently had,they didn't want the fallen to go to waiste.
This bloody feast was one reason they were slow and carefull about going into war.

Back to the eating of plants,anything outside of there homeland of Valenwood.I think would be suitable for eating.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:53 pm

Well according to A Dance in Fire, which details bosmer culture, they are cannibals. It's not that they murder each other randomly, but they eat whatever they kill. It's why they ritually starve themselves before long battles. Malcontents will also eat politicians they dont like in a complex ritual, which involves preparing the food in a very particular way. It's really weird, but cool
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 2:48 pm

Bosmer are reverse vegans, ha! Always thought this was a particularly cool (and gross, but still cool) part of the lore. I wonder how they accomodate the diets of outsiders? (Not at all is probably the answer...)
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 11:01 pm

I wonder how they accomodate the diets of outsiders? (Not at all is probably the answer...)

Ha, I can see it now:

Bob the Breton enters a great banquet hall, the main table laden with fine-cut steaks of all sizes. His Bosmer hosts all gather round the table, urging him to sit and partake of the savory meats.
"My, this steak is delicious!" Bob says as the succulent, slow-roasted, fall-off-the-bone delight touches his tongue. "I'm sure my brother Jim would find this quite pleasing to his palette. Say...where is Jim anyway? He's always running late!"
The Bosmer exchange nervous glances....
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:17 pm

Didn't know they ate their enemies, I was staying away from the cannibal stuff thinking it didn't fit a Bosmer. Time to go eat some people :)

I like this bit:

They often buy woodcrafts that they have no use for or whose use they never bother to find out. Some of the bravest Wood Elven warriors use wagon wheels as shields, or as (they think) impressive headgear.

:P
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:11 pm

Here's a REAL tough question: can Bosmer eat mead? Mead is literally honey-wine. Honey ORIGINALLY comes from flowers but it produced by bees. So what's the verdict? Also, I'd love to see how Bethesda is going to handle bosmer culture whenever we go to Valenwood. They had better not phone it in! I want to see all their cuisine, I want to get drunk off jagga and rotmeth! I want to smoke caterpillers out of a bone pipe for goodness sake!
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:20 pm



Ha, I can see it now:

Bob the Breton enters a great banquet hall, the main table laden with fine-cut steaks of all sizes. His Bosmer hosts all gather round the table, urging him to sit and partake of the savory meats.
"My, this steak is delicious!" Bob says as the succulent, slow-roasted, fall-off-the-bone delight touches his tongue. "I'm sure my brother Jim would find this quite pleasing to his palette. Say...where is Jim anyway? He's always running late!"
The Bosmer exchange nervous glances....
That was hilarious!!!!
"Well we heard you two had an argument, and we just thought......Oooooh this is awkward."
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