Well I've always enjoyed the lore that the TES series creates and follows. So the other day I read that after the Empire had signed the White Gold Concordat the people of Hammerfell continued to fight the Thalmor. And after a bit of fighting and such they overthrew the Thalmor in their land and signed a treaty with them, after the Empire had dropped all connections with the people of Hammerfell. It also says that the Redguards questioned the Empires strength as Emperor Titus Mede II was able to destroy the Thalmor army in Cyrodil, so why couldn't they keep fighting and defeat the Altmer?
If that is true then why would the Thalmor have any power in Skyrim? I think it's being set up for a confrontation in later DLC.
What are your thoughts on all of this?

Deffently dlc or the next TES game.

My prediciton is that the Dovahkiin becomes the new Dragonborn Emperor and managed to use his Dragon allies to dissolve the Thalmor.

Most likely next TES game. Sets the ground for a Valenwood/Summerset Isles game.

If they kept on fighting the war wouldn't be a war it'll be suicide or slaughter since both sides were exhausted in troops. But the one thing that leaves me confused is why did the emperor sign that ridiculous agreement and not made any changed in the details.

The Great War is very interesting part in the lore IMO and still have some secrets to be revealed. For instance Emperor's move to sign the threaty. Empre was winning the war, but when the elves showed their faces in Imperial City, Titus Mede the Second capitulate. it seems stupid at first, but knowing his strategical experience (He was quite good leader) there must be something behind it

I hope that happens. Khajiit Emperor FTW! Anyway, I think it's gonna be a DLC. Hopefully not one that Takes place in Skyrim but maybe Summerset Isles? Get the mission, go there and attack the head of the snake directly..

That why the dragonborn can't become emperor he or she has too many faces to become emperor.

Well you can become the champion of every Deadra, leader of practically every major faction, and have infinite power so anything seems possible really

Bethesda have the power of vagueness, they could cater an entire DLC (A decent expansion) to a Thalmor rebellion where the Dovahkiin is the new emperor, thing is it'd have to happen as a DLC since future games will undoubtedly not contain the Dragonborn or any previous TES heroes.

In future editions they only need to refer to he/she as the Dragonborn emperor and then neutral deeds of heroism etc. Similar to how they've handled Nerevar and CoC become Sheogorath.

thats why I help the empire,they will build strength and then catch the Thalmor off guard
then we rip up the white gold concordant and get back to buisness

Guys, both sides are currently marshaling their power and will probably continue to do so for many years. The Empire was very weak at the end of The Great War and had just barely regained the Imperial City: They were in no position to deny the White-Gold Concordat. I'm guessing that the next game will be after the next Great War and we're really not gonna fight the Thalmor ourselves at all.

Plus the Player can't be Emperor because SOMEONE would have to record his/her name, race, and gender and TES doesn't do that for the player. Everything that you do actually happens in the lore.

What happened was, that once the Thalmor lost the element of surprise and lost their momentum, they puffed up their chest to make themselves look bigger and more intimidating, and bluffed. Emperor Titus Mede II was too much of an idiotic fop to see through the smokescreen, so he agreed to the WGC. The Redguards however, saw through the bluff, and called it. The Redguards then proved the Empire wrong, by beating the Thalmor out of their lands. Now, the Redguards hate the Empire, because the Empire tried to sell them out to the Thalmor, in order to save it's own ass.


How is the Empire going to catch the Thalmor off guard, when the Thalmor has planted spies and informants all throughout the Empire, and the Empire has let them do so freely. The Emperor likely couldn't even take a [censored] without the Thalmor knowing it. Any and all battle plans the Empire draws up, will be known and thwarted by the Thalmor. The Thalmor will know when, where and how the Empire intends to strike. The Thalmor could intercept an order for a troop movement, then change it to where the Imperial Troops end up marching right into an ambush.
The only time the Thalmor is taken by surprise, is by immediate, spontaneous action. It doesn't give their spies enough time to gather and relay information.

No one have recorded the name/gender/race of the Nerevarine or The Champion of Cyrodiil, they are just quoted by their respective titles in the lore
and i really hope that even if we don't play it, that the Dragonborn became the next Emperor and kick the Thalmor a*ss @@ (it's really the best choice since Tidus Mede II died )

I wouldn't say they "saw through the bluff", more like they are natural warriors, imperials are the diplomats... they fought because thats the only thing they know, and know really well.(gods now I gotta give up my brand new character and start a redguard 'cause, they are freaking warriors:D)

It would probably take place in the next game, like everyone said. We might be able to see the beginning of their downfall in the DLC, but I don't think they could flesh out the complete fall of the Thalmor within just a bit of this game. It would be nice to set the events in motion, and in the next Elder Scrolls game (Which I personally hope is in Elsweyr, or Hammerfell near the Alik'r Desert) hear about the results.
I don't think the Dragonborn could be Emperor though. Maybe establish a new line of leadership by swearing fealty to an individual claiming the throne, but it would be remembered too well if the person who saved the empire and claimed leadership was the Emperor or Empress. Plus, all the previous heroes have pretty much disappeared from knowledge after they completed their destiny.

I hope this dealt with in DLC, it would be nice to resolve this in-game. If it's not, I see them possibly just writing it in the lore how it ended.

Well yeah both sides were almost completely destroyed just from The Battle of the Red Ring. What I don't understand though is if both sides were completely distraught then why would the empire accept the Thalmor as a much stronger force when they both showed that they are of equal strength? Hopefully more info and action is put into a later DLC or atleast put out somewhere by Bethesda. I also would like to see more Thalmor in Skyrim because honestly you can count the number of them with the little emphasis put on their victory. It feels more like the Thalmor have control of Skyrim by just a treaty and agreement, not by the forces that are set in play there

Whatever the case, it just goes to show you all the fertile potential Beth had for a Skyrim expansion. And yet what do we get? Herp-derp vampires and hurf-durf vampire hunters... oh, and crossbows. Wow. And armored trolls. And a magic horse.
All this wasted potential vis a vis the Thalmor.

There likley to do a good amount of DLC... so it doesn't mean it won't be done at some point. BS made it clear from the beginning that they may use DLC to improve features (like vampires) that pretty much svck.

As to why the Empire would consider the terms of the White-Gold concordat and essentially acknowledging the Thalmor as 'superior', one only need look at where the war was staged for the most part IMO. Cyrodil was rather severely ravaged by the Thalmor armies, where as the Summerset Isles remained relatively untouched beyond some Blades activities. Once the element of surprise was gone, the Legions seemed to have the supremacy but in a war of that magnitude, it was a little too late (again in my opinion).

im hoping the next elder scrolls allows you to reunite all nations of tamriel and ascend in godhood (similar to talos)

That's a really good point, the Blades in the Isles were practically wiped out. Maybe as time goes on we'll see something based around the Second Aldmeri Dominion and their governing of the Empire/Protectorates

Holy crap, if they actually put out a DLC that allows you to take on and take out the Thalmor, Ulfang will definitely be coming out of retirement.

Hoo boy, there were few things I enjoyed more than killing Thalmor patrols and freeing their prisoners, and Ulfang didn't even take sides in the Civil War.

Besides getting to explore morrowind. Rebuilding the blades completely and destroying the thalmor is all I want from dlc