I was brought into Bethesda games by way of Fallout 3. Over these years i have complained, and loud. Most times blindly, without understanding or thought. Without thinking about what I love about these games which is the true root of why one gets so pissy when the hiccups crop up. If ppl can understand that inward view, then we can get to what really matters.I love their concept of what an RPG/SHOOTER fantasy ball of badass fun is supposed to be. Yea, other games are out there from other developers and some have half the tech issues a Beth game has out the gate, but they also have HALF the imagination, creativty, and originality Bethesda puts into these games. So much small detail in story lines and game tech that pound for pound, in my opinion, when it is a 100% Bethesda game you get something very special, like Fallout 3 was for me then as Skyrim is for me now. Besides, if it weren't for the occasional character stuck in the floor or some highly inapropriate dialog at just the wrong time that turns out to be very funny, or maybe a crash or two, I wouldn't have taken the time to learn what was put into this game as far as shear effort and passion. Some things slip by when a team is trying to create something so big, a real labor of love as I see it. This game is massive, unique, fun, creative, and one of the greatest efforts in modern gaming. Yea that little Obsidian speed bump and the New Vegas thing was were I realised, this game making [censored] aint easy and people make mistakes. Bethesda has more than proven they care about the games they have given creative birth to with Skyrim. Not everything is always perfect, but as patches and DLC are steady rolling down the line I see one developer who made a game for us and themselves to enjoy. The adjustments aren't easy,but the game will always improve upon an otherwise extraordinary game, so Save often, reset the box once in a while and QUIT YER [censored]IN [censored]IN! or you can unplug, cause I don't wanna hear the bs clogging otherwise good discussion and possible gems of ideas that could keep this game fresh for a very long time. That is truelly getting your worth out of it, just my opinion.

I do often find myself wishing the boards had a 'complaints' folder for those who love to wallow in negativity to indulge themselves in.

Stopped reading here.

Complaining about complaining just adds to the initial problem.

People are welcome to make constructive criticisms of the game - in fact constructive criticism is often found in the best discussions here.