I made 3 posts in th Dawngaurd section about the topic of why Dawngaurd isn't going to be released on the PC untill a mouth goes by, and I was met with stern and hostile replies. The topic got locked becasue it was suspect for starting a console war, but that was not my intention. I just want a civil converstion and feed back from the community on this topic. If this one gets locked as well than I give up. I shouldn't have to be punished and silinced becasue other people are abusive.

welcome to the internet, and this is the wrong place for a dawnguard topic as-of-now.

It's because MICROSOFT payed a certain amount to keep it exlusive to the xbox 360.
That really that hard to comprehend?
And before the tears start running again, SONY did it with BF3.
So don't go hating on either Bethesda or Microsoft, look at sony.

Because it's a tense subject. PC players have the intrinsic right of it in calling out MS and Sony for their poor behavior and Bethesda for being complicit. The other half of it is that console players feel somehow obligated to defend their corporate overlords who have no problem pushing mandatory console updates that add advertising or remove features. So wherever it's mentioned you'll get a guaranteed crapstorm because one side is right and the other side both slightly outnumbers them and has hundreds of dollars invested into Sony/MS' closed platforms, which has interesting fact-bending effects on the mind.

Sony actually did it worse. Sony's deal was all updates, meaning bugfix patches in addition to DLC. Sure it's only a week but a week is a long time when there's an unstoppable god cannon gun because of a bug.

Well thats it... i wanted to talk about the logic behind it. Does microsoft really think a 30 day head start on a expantion is really gona effect their console sales? PC is seperate. Releasing the DLC the same time on PC and Xbox are not going to effect each other. Its not the same however with Playstation.. I understand the Logic with getting a head start agaist their compeditor, but PC is seperate. Some say they had a hard time with porting dawngaurd to PC? That is total rubish. Did they just miraculously figure out what the problem was and it will take an extra 30 days to figure it out?

Yes they honestly expect sales to increase because of it rightfully so. I'm sure some people will have the game for another platform and buy it again for X-box which will give MS some money and there are probably even a few people that buy an entire new console for it.

More important however this deal was announced before Skyrim was released so there could be quite a few people out there that decided to buy it for X-box instead of PC or PS3 simply because of that. Microsoft wouldn't have paid for it if they didn't think it would make a difference. They did some market anolyses drew a conclusion put an amount on there and offered part of that amount ot Bethesda. Probably.

You should be banned right here right now. We said, your intentions may be good, but other people may take advantage of the opportunity to start a console war. You're other threads were locked 3 times, and yet you still post this. You haven't learned to follow the forum rules. We're not being hostile towards you, we're trying to save your neck so you don't get banned. But despite our warnings, you ignore them all.

Oh forget it.... I give up... I appreciate your input though Fishy..... So far you have the most logical responce... Zinthros, I agree with you, but you just insulted people with what you said. Saying Consoles are slaves to corperate overlords, its talk like that, that causes these forums to be shut down. WHy can't they jsut remove indivual responses that Flame, instead of shuting down the whole thing? I don't want ot make trouble for anyone... SO please no more posts.. jsut let this thread die....... PLease no posts.... I honestly feel like i was pushed around... Instead of debating the topic, people just give me a dirty look... I guess it myfault.. But this topic was importent to me, and i wanted to talk about it.. I guess I have to go somewhere else....

What's funny is that Microsoft wasted the money.

The entire point of these deals to skew the power rankings on a multiplat so that people with both a PS3 and an Xbox will get a particular console version and MAYBE a small handful of PC gamers will do the same.

Let's look at Skyrim before the deal:
PS3 - Absolutely the worst version of Skyrim. Crippling lag that got worse as you played a character on release, bugs exclusive to it, worst visuals, longest loading times, gets patches last either because of Sony certification or because Beth is the least familiar with it. Nobody in their right mind that owns both consoles would buy this unless they didn't know.
360 - Middle child. Nothing to say really. Only runs in 720P.
PC - I'll get hate for this, but the best with no logical argument to the contrary. Most control options, best visuals by a massive margin, 1080P or beyond for those with $1000 displays, more free content than there ever will be DLC in the form of mods, debug console for fixing quests / getting unstuck, best loading / waiting times, gets patches first (if you use the betas, which is hit or miss. Though the 1.6 beta was more stable than the final ...). Those with the option to get this will most likely get it for obvious reasons, especially if they aren't new to The Elder Scrolls (look at Morrowind or oblivion today, or even Fallout 3).

After MS gave Bethesda what must have been over a million dollars for such a high profile release
PS3 - Still the worst. And the people who are buying it who own both consoles (read: the uninformed) probably won't be aware of the exclusive month either. Great job Microsoft.
360 - Gets the official content a month earlier ... if you're willing to play the game at less than half the resolution, longer load times, far worse visual quality, less control options, longer wait and sleep times, no mod access, and no ability to get yourself out of rocks or fix a bugged quest. Some are, but is it a million+ dollars worth of people? Probably not.
PC - It's an Elder Scrolls game.

Then again, this deal was made before the game was even released. I wonder if Microsoft would make it again. Probably not. We'd better get SSAO and that enhanced water surface on PC in 1.7 to make up for this mess. The sooner these practices end the better off we all are. Shame on Microsoft and Sony for starting it, and shame on Bethesda for playing along.