My entire argument here is based around the fact that people truly under rate Skyrim for what it really is. I've seen people say that it is just another port of Oblivion or Fallout, and that is definitely not the case. Anyone could tell that it is not just by playing a few minutes of each, and Skyrim does not feel like at all like the clunky gameplay that Oblivion has. Don't get me wrong, I started getting into the TES series when Oblivion came out but really Skyrim has become something entirely different, and better at the same time.
Honestly why would anyone believe that Skyrim is such a simple game to create? I've even tried my hand at writing scripting and code for a single quest mod and that took days on end just for a few actions to unfold. I personally think that Bethesda has done up the entire industry and revolutionized RPG's. Again.
Does anyone agree, or disagree? Any comments or thoughts are welcome

Please don't do this. I like Skyrim too, but thread wars just weaken our side of the arguement. Who cares if someone insults the game you like. It's fun to debate against them, but cursing at each other and starting threads to answer back to those who dislike the game just degrades the forum as a whole. So please, please do not do this.

I agree that Skyrim is a definite advance over Oblivion. Less time spent tinkering with a page of numbers is more time spent simply playing the game.

What they need to do now is to take a look at some of the mods available, anolyze some of the gameplay features these mods add like deeper complexity and rhythm to melee combat, more complex magic systems, and the like, and think about how to incorporate these things into the next game.

But even vanilla Skyrim is simply far superior to Oblivion - despite the fact that it plays on the same hardware.

I'm not fighting with anyone on here or shooting down their opinions, I actually want to see how someone feels about the game based on their experience with the game and it's predecessors compared to my own and the communities.

A port of Oblivion or Fallout...? I've seen dozens of different complaints about Skyrim, some valid, some not, some tentatively acceptable, some factual, some definitely a matter of opinion--but I can't ever say I've seen this. Quite the opposite: a number of people have said that Skyrim is inferior to Oblivion or Fallout (or even Morrowind) because it changes things they felt were superior.

Whether one accepts that or not, I think you're building a strawman argument, here. No one here thinks Skyrim is just a port of Oblivion or Fallout. It's a totally different game.


There are literally dozens of threads on this board already that do that. Several are here in the Skyrim forum, some over in Oblivion, and a few even in Morrowind. By all means, feel free to search out how people have stated at length in many threads that went the full limit of allowable posts, what they think about Skyrim compared to other titles in the ES series, and why. But why should we all post our opinions once more just to please you? No offense meant, but perhaps you could do a little leg work on your own. Just searching back to the month following Skyrim's release will give you tons of reading matter for the next week or three.

This, is why Skyrim is superior to Oblivion to begin with. And why when those other two companies whose names also start with B's, have lost my business, Beth (for all the bugs they have at game launch) is still the company of my preference. They have problems. Bugs are a part of games now, I hate it but I've come to accept that fact of life. But at least Beth has tried to not just listen to the gamers, but make modding accessible AND trying to implement some of those things into subsequent base architecture. They don't let everything in the door, but then, they don't have to. Modders are going to add it anyways and its no overhead on their part.

The only major complaint I can truly levy against Skyrim, is lack of spell creation. The dialogue is limited, but its not breaking my gaming experience.