So I role play as a good guy mage and I really would like to role play a vampire monk
1 I dont wont to be a vampire lord just vampire
2 I will never feed
3 What can I do and not do
4 What does it mean if everyone hates me at stage 4
5 I have white eyes because I roleplaying a blind mage what will happen to my eyes when I become a vamp

Any advice would be highly appreciated

1. Doable.
2. Once again, doable.
3. I'm not really sure what you are asking here. You would just do what you would normally do a good character. No Thieve's Guild, no Brotherhood, no Volkihar clan, etc. There are a number of Daedric quests you will not want to do either. Hop onto UESP.net to see some of them if you are not familiar with the entirity of the game.
4. Well, Stage 4 means everyone would be hostile to you. They will attack you on sight and the only way out is to feed. If you are an Illusion, Harmony will get around that problem. However, since you are asking in a Dawnguard thread, I'm going to assume you have it. Stage 4 doesn't exist anymore as of Dawnguard.
5. Well, if you had Dawnguard, they are supposed to glow. I've never seen a blind vampire before Dawnguard, so I couldn't tell you if you lack the DLC.

A vampire monk? Sounds cool!
I wish there was some way we vampires (that RP) could come together and form a coven or some-such. ...yea, I'm a nerd.
My 2 Septims:
1 I dont wont to be a vampire lord just vampire
Check.

2 I will never feed
Check

3 What can I do and not do
As far as I can tell, Dawnguard altered the play for Vampires. I assume it's all Vamps, but to be honest I've only ever been a Vamp Lord in Syrim...so I can't say for sure. Right now I've been a Vampire (Lord) for nearly 100 days in-game and I've only fed 2 maybe 3 times. I wander around almost exclusively at stage 4 and the NPCs interact with me like normal, only commenting on my eyes or skin as I pass by. The Sun still hits me with a 'debuff' which gets more drastic per stage, so I'd advise against fighting anything in the daylight if it can be helped...unless you're able to manipulate stealth and cover, or your magic is strong...but other than that there is no sun damage as before.

If you're RPing (I know, that's what this topic is about ) then I'd suggest avoiding the sun all together if it can be helped. If day travel it necessary, always travel with your hooded robes on, or some sort of hood up. Try and find some sort of cloth or leather gauntlets that cover your arms, and high boots. But that kinda goes without saying...I suppose. Also utilize your stage 4 powers, and spec into Illusion so you can fully utilize calm, fury, and fear. I'd even suggest putting points into speech so you can manipulate any dialog options you might have. I'm still surprised by what I'm able to get away with. Just 5 points into Speech has nearly made a whole new game for me.

4 What does it mean if everyone hates me at stage 4
Technically, no one hates you at stage 4 since DG came out. You'll interact as normal. However! If you're not playing the the DLC, then every NPC will try and kill you on sight. If you've ever played as a Vampire Lord (or Werewolf for the matter) then imagine that you're standing in the center of the market on a busy day. Then transform. That's how they would react to you at stage 4. Or! Consider what happens when the vampires attack your cities. That would be their reaction to you strolling around at stage 4.

5 I have white eyes because I roleplaying a blind mage what will happen to my eyes when I become a vamp
Say goodbye to those white eyes friend. Unless they've patched something that I'm unaware of, you'll be getting the typical vamp eyes. What you could do is start the Dark Brotherhood and take one of the executioner's hoods from one of the victims and wear that , maybe pickpocket it since you're playing "good"? Sounds silly I know, but they don't have the blind fold available that I'm aware of. Unless you're on the PC, then I'd suggest finding out the console command for that blindfold the Moth Priest wears in the DLC.

if you have dawnguard there is no longer stage 4 hostility.

Obviously you won't have vampire lord form, but your face and eyes should change slightly. Your eyes will no longer be blind I'm sure because your vampire eyes are dependent on what race you chose, not an alteration of your already chosen eyes.

You could RP that the vampirisms immortality healed your eyesight?

Your eyes will change to the yellow headlight eyes, but it occurs to me that they could be blind and glowing if you're on PC and are willing to do a bit of work with the Creation Kit (nothing exceptionally difficult, but it can be overwhelming for a layman).

You might as well just imagine yourself as a vampire rather than be one. And LOL you have to play with your monitor off.

although if you're not good or careful you'll just make every vampire look blind I'm sure

This is all really good advice.

Alas, the moth priest blindfold is not equippable by the player (unless you mod it).

In my experience I find it easy for the player to role play as a good vampire. There are some limitations on quest choices only in Dawnguard, but not for the rest of vanilla Skyrim. I think having Dawnguard installed is your best bet for a good Vampire, even though Dawnguard adds NPCs who will attempt to kill you (generic Dawnguard NPCs), since you will benefit from the rest of the populace never trying to kill you because you don't feed. You will have the same appearance as a non-transformed VL.

If you don't want to play with Dawnguard I can suggest a 'good' alternative to feeding. Find a follower who becomes your friend and who will consent to you taking a little of their blood to sustain you. A follower will sleep in a bed you own if you ask them to, and will not become hostile if you then feed on them. You do not need to sneak as you would if you were feeding without consent. A follower who is also your spouse would probably be best for this. If you use this method of marrying a follower and buying a house, you will always be able to manage and avoid any 4th stage hostility from townspeople.

^ That's a really good suggestion.

This I can work with

I thnik everyone is forgetting that you can take potions to quench your blood thirst and feeding becomes no longer necessary with Dawnguard.

If you are role playing never feeding as a vampire is impossible because lore wise vampires that don't feed either go feral (in which they murder anyone they can find and drink their blood) or you go into a coma like janus's wife since she refused to feed.

Oddly enough both are added by Dawnguard, so you might be able to drink potions now, but you don't need to with 4th stage hostility gone.

Very true, but how long does it take to reach either state? For Janus's wife I thought it took a good while. Like months if not years. I would think that it'd take a while to go feral as well. Not years but at least a few months before you completely lost it. I could be mistaken though, so what do you guys think?

This is a good question. I RP as fairly powerful, and admit I let myself get away with a lot.
With Rona Hassildor she could be thought of as almost willing herself into her condition because of a severe moral and psychological rejection of Vampirism. She was a Vampire for over 50 years, but it is unclear for how much of that time she had been asleep.
I'd be inclined to think how long it takes for a character to become crazy or comatose may depend on how strong or weak an individual's personality was. A determined, focused vampire may deal better with the situation than one who already was a bit randomly violent or maudlin.

I really don't like the idea of Vampires who never feed apart from it going against lore it just seems such a crazy idea, it would be like a mortal character who decides they will never eat. I do try and RP as a good vampire, I still play like a Vampire but try and balance my crimes by doing good deeds as a way to deal with the guilt.

Not feeding..lore wise drives Vampires insane and eventually puts them into a coma like state, if an ally or loved one doesn't feed you blood once in the coma like state very fast you never come back from it.. (Grey Prince's father..and The Count of Skingrad's wife)

So lore wise..you would cause more evil as a Vampire by not feeding than if you did since you would do terrible things while screaming "I NEED YOUR BLOOOOOOOOD" like most of the vanilla Skyrim vampires did in the caves before they all got new dialogue in Dawnguard.

Your eyes will go glowing gold/yellow or they'll glitch out/flicker.

You could make your good character a Vampire with the notion of...

"I could die at any moment of a disease or wound, if I become a Vampire...I can protect Tamriel for an eternity but at what cost?"

You know..the whole..its not the most righteous path but the end result will more than make up for the bad things done.

Have him like fight the urge to feed but eventually give into the need since you'll do more harm starved than you would by merely feeding on sleeping people who'll never know you were there.

If you are RP'ing and going by the Lore you will have to feed if you want to keep your good character good essentially.

If you wanna go down to brass tacks, there is no reason to feed, people don't hate you at stage 4 unless you get rid of Dawnguard or are on PC and install one of those Vampire overhauls that brings it back which is what most people go off of even on their RP characters, entirely ignoring lore which is what you'll see a lot of people mention if you even hint at "should I feed?" =P

Just my two cents anyway, take it or leave it.


Oh and you could use Vampire's seduction on bandits and feed off them possibly?

Well depending on how many hours you spend a day playing skyrim, it could take a LONG time to get to that many months passing especially if you don't use the waiting thing xD

1. Okay. you can do that if you are siding with Dawnguard
2. Okay.
3. Do Good quests, Don't do deadric or lie about stuff
4. I don't think everyone will hate you, this is not Oblivion.
5. Probabl'y make it darker, but it will probably stay the same



Good luck Angel