All DLC's such big departures from the original game... : V - Skyrim

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:17 am

Actually, and you may hate me for this, I have looked at TESO recently and it seems a marked improvement from what I saw in the first vids and discussions. Still hoping it won't be horrible.

TESO is looking great.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:55 am

What idiot said this? And what thread did he say it?

Here ya go.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418899-any-way-to-make-skyrim-proper/

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:52 pm

I have played DA:O and honestly, its not that dark :tongue:

. Moral right and wrong are still quite defined. Your protagonists are NOT that morally ambiguous (you certainly are not if you don't choose to be). And the world isn't that gloomy really. Plenty of white knights and great evils there. The Witcher 2, I think, would be more "dark" in the since of moral ambiguity in protagonist and world.

Agreed - there were few clear-cut wrong or right choices in Witcher 2. However, DA:O didn't hesitate to hit the player over the head via party members for "wrong" choices.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 6:27 am

Here ya go.

http://www.gamesas.com/topic/1418899-any-way-to-make-skyrim-proper/

Haha.. Wow.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:21 pm

People get their definitions in a twist.

Low fantasy is defined as: "nonrational happenings that are without causality or rationality because they occur in the rational world where such things are not supposed to occur."

High fantasy is defined: "by its taking place in an imaginary world distinct from our own or by the epic stature of its characters, themes and plot."
Skyrim takes place on Nirn, which is not Earth.
By definition, it is high fantasy.

/pedantic

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 9:30 am

So JayP9, were the dragons and magic in the main game not enough of a tipoff for you to figure out Skyrim is high-fantasy?

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:33 pm

Its a sword and sorcery game, anyone thinking that TES games not high fantasy is frankly blind or just plain dumb. And as for the whole "DLC is out of character" bit, thats just sheer nonsense. Its a prime example of someone who doesnt understand the genre at all.

Seriously OP if you dont like the game dont play it. Its that simple. You clearly don't have the mindset to play these types of games, so rather than trying to get the devs to change the game to suit your preference, you should instead be playing something else that is to your preference and leave Skyrim to the people who want to play it.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 5:56 pm

I always considered Skyrim in the Sword and Sorcery genre with many elements from High Fantasy. Dawnguard didn't stand out as anything over the top, and I am somewhat of a lore fanatic. I wouldn't have minded a more gritty and savage touch however, but since TES has always been about its own unique style of High Fantasy I was quite alright with those elements.

DAO on the other hand never struck me as Dark Fantasy, too much candy coated colors and jrpg-style armor. But that's a matter of taste and typology. Diablo 1 & 2 + the Hexen series had a nice Dark Fantasy thing going on I'd say.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 2:10 pm

Um, this. Wth, TC? :eek:

*Checks outside*
Good, no dragon priests floating down the street. I had to be sure, I get so immersed in Skyrim at times, you know? :tes:

Haha thats great.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 12:31 pm

When Skyrim first came out, people were complaining that the world was too realistic, now people are complaining that the dlcs have too much fantasy? :confused:

There's that vicious cycle again... happens with most game sequels and series.

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:50 pm

You know right now, TC is looking at this and chuckling while rubbing his hands together. "Yes yes...grow my responses..."

» Tue Dec 25, 2012 7:21 pm

If you think Dawnguard and Dragonborn constitute any "higher" fantasy than Skyrim, you need to go play WoW, Everquest, and perhaps Dragon Age to get a better idea of what "high" fantasy really is :tongue:

Yeah, that's the thing: I don't like that kind of silly fantasy. I love the Lord of the Rings and movies like that, but in terms of a game I don't. Perhaps it's because I'm primarily a shooter gamer. I absolutely loved Oblivion though, and that was pretty high fantasy. Meh, we all have our tastes I suppose.