At last, Sovngarde! : V

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:27 pm

lol, nope Soul Trapped.

I noticed on a video that if you soul trap the Ebony Warrior, he doesn't say his Sovngarde line. Guess he realized that now he is stuck in the Soul Cairn for eternity and denied the pleasures of Sovngarde.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:48 pm

Aw, poor guy. At least he gets to chill with Durnehviir though. :cool:

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:18 pm

Dead Thrall him, go to the soul cairn, and kill him again.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:51 pm

wait a minute ... you can soul trap the ebony warrior??.. and having done this he will be in the soul cairn? like physically there? you can walk up to him?

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:07 am

I do not believe that you can find him in the soul cairne, although would be cool if you soul trapped certain characters you could find them in the soul cairne just as you could find them in Sovngaurde.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:03 pm

ebony warrior: I m dead, but i shall go to soverngarde because i died honourably in battle.
dragonborb: *casts soul trap*, slashes
ebony warrior: NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
duvenir: Welcome to MA PARTY
arvek: neighhhhh

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:18 am

ebony warrior: I m dead, but i shall go to soverngarde because i died honourably in battle.
dragonborb: *casts soul trap*, slashes
ebony warrior: NUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
duvenir: Welcome to MA PARTY
arvek: neighhhhh

You forgot about Juib yelling at them to keep it down as hes writing his second book.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:19 pm

lol, nope Soul Trapped.

I noticed on a video that if you soul trap the Ebony Warrior, he doesn't say his Sovngarde line. Guess he realized that now he is stuck in the Soul Cairn for eternity and denied the pleasures of Sovngarde.

I just realised... its not my video is it?

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 3:02 pm

Yeah but the Ebony Warrior is Redguard so he would never have seen Sovngarde anyway.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 4:02 pm

Yeah but the Ebony Warrior is Redguard so he would never have seen Sovngarde anyway. :smile:

true. But that means if the player was an altmer or khajiit, visiting soverngarde doesnt seem right. Even tsun says 'when the time is right, join us'. WTF?

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:13 pm

true. But that means if the player was an altmer or khajiit, visiting soverngarde doesnt seem right. Even tsun says 'when the time is right, join us'. WTF?

Well Tsun also says that even if you're a Nightingale and tell him. It's probably just an oversight.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:59 am

Well Tsun also says that even if you're a Nightingale and tell him. It's probably just an oversight.

Or it means that all the aedra/deadra/Shor will have an odd time figuring out how to solve this.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:52 am

Dead Thrall him, go to the soul cairn, and kill him again.

Can he be Dead-Thralled?

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 12:15 pm

Yeah but the Ebony Warrior is Redguard so he would never have seen Sovngarde anyway. :smile:

true. But that means if the player was an altmer or khajiit, visiting soverngarde doesnt seem right. Even tsun says 'when the time is right, join us'. WTF?

Not true.
Belief shaped reality here. If the Ebony Warrior is faithful to this particular belief set and dies an honourable death there is no reason he couldnt go to Sovngarde.

Secondly, the Dovakhiin enters through a portal. There is absolutely nothing 'weird' about a Dragonborn to visit Sovngarde in pursuit of his destiny. Who is Dragonborn is chosen by Akatosh and has absolutely nothing to do with race.
The Dovakhiin through defeating Alduin is honoured by Tsun by getting a return ticket, that is, he can choose to go to Sovngarde when the time comes.
Once more, absolutely no weirdness here.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 7:10 pm

Not true.
Belief shaped reality here. If the Ebony Warrior is faithful to this particular belief set and dies an honourable death there is no reason he couldnt go to Sovngarde.

What you also wrote is not true neither. There is nothing is the lore which suggests that non-Nords can go to Sovngarde if they can believe enough.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:48 am

true. But that means if the player was an altmer or khajiit, visiting soverngarde doesnt seem right. Even tsun says 'when the time is right, join us'. WTF?

well i personally believe THE Dragonborn will be gladly accepted in to Sovngarde, no matter the race, as he/she is the one who defeated the soul-eater itself....in Sovngarde :lol:

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 1:02 pm

What you also wrote is not true neither. There is nothing is the lore which suggests that non-Nords can go to Sovngarde if they can believe enough.

This is how TES myth works, so it is true.
The forces of mythopoeia ensure that belief shapes reality.
That there is nothing in lore about it is irrelevant when describing how these basic facets of lore work.
You dont need to have a description of each and every type of fruit that falls off a tree when you have the overarching rule of Newton's law.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:07 am

well i personally believe THE Dragonborn will be gladly accepted in to Sovngarde, no matter the race, as he/she is the one who defeated the soul-eater itself....in Sovngarde :lol:

Id rather go to an Island instead of a crappy 3 room castle.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:14 am

If you should trap Ulfric or Rikka, are they still in Sovengarde?

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 9:04 am

If you should trap Ulfric or Rikka, are they still in Sovengarde?

Yes since I soul trapped Rikke and she was still in Sovngarde.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 5:47 pm

Yes since I soul trapped Rikke and she was still in Sovngarde.

I figured as much.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 11:57 am

Not true.
Belief shaped reality here. If the Ebony Warrior is faithful to this particular belief set and dies an honourable death there is no reason he couldnt go to Sovngarde.

Secondly, the Dovakhiin enters through a portal. There is absolutely nothing 'weird' about a Dragonborn to visit Sovngarde in pursuit of his destiny. Who is Dragonborn is chosen by Akatosh and has absolutely nothing to do with race.
The Dovakhiin through defeating Alduin is honoured by Tsun by getting a return ticket, that is, he can choose to go to Sovngarde when the time comes.
Once more, absolutely no weirdness here.

No, Merari. I don't care what half baked theory people came up with in the lore forums. Until the game in some ways says this, or a lore writer, only Nords go to Sovngarde through death. Anyone else who gets in like the Dragonborn did forced their way in. And Tsun only offers him a spot in Sovngarde probably for his above average deeds as the dragonborn, and possibly because he may be a Shezzarine. That part is of course not fact, but so far, Sovngarde being a Nord party only is. The game gives no clues saying otherwise that a non Nord can get in through natural means.

» Mon Feb 04, 2013 10:36 am

Personally if I was a warrior/hunter I would rather go hunting grounds than sovngarde.