Am I the only one? --> permanently remove ALL map marker : V

» Sun May 27, 2012 11:07 pm

I searched the forums and no luck. I'm looking for what is surely a simple mod:

Remove ALL map markers, permanently

What I mean is towns, shrines, anything...I just want a blank map that I can use to navigate. I used TMM in console, but its not so helpful, because the places come back when I re-discover them.

Could someone please help me?
Thanks!
Sham :run:

» Sun May 27, 2012 9:45 pm

I'm sure you can use the CK and find and remove all the markers manually.

» Sun May 27, 2012 6:39 pm

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=912 will do that for ya and then some

» Sun May 27, 2012 7:39 pm

Yes, Skyrim compass tuner can do that. May I ask why you want no markers at all?

» Sun May 27, 2012 5:37 pm

Having the physical map in-hand, without seeing landmarks pop up at you in the map menu would really increase immersion.

» Sun May 27, 2012 6:36 pm

Having the physical map in-hand, without seeing landmarks pop up at you in the map menu would really increase immersion.

For immersion, I use the map as my journal. It's exactly like I had a paper map and I wrote on it my destinations and what I have to do once there. I open the journal only to decide which quest I'll activate and which one(s) my character won't do.

» Mon May 28, 2012 1:29 am

http://skyrim.nexusmods.com/downloads/file.php?id=912 will do that for ya and then some :smile:

Yep. Awesome mod.

» Mon May 28, 2012 2:07 am

Oh thanks guys, that was easier than I thought. Last time i checked the compass tuner, it was, well... a compass tuner ^^ --> glad it now does maps too!

You asked why? The reason is indeed immersion. I use a paper map where I make my own notes about discovered locations. I also use a handwritten journal with all the game info I need. Just seems more fun and I suppose old school to me. I also use the following, in case you're interested:
- Obviously quest markers off and modded better quest objectives on
- Compass entirely off...navigate by geography, immersive HUD
- No fast travel except carriages
- Master difficulty sine lvl 1 with just about every difficulty mod you can imagine (deadly combat, duel combat, DD, hardcoe + rebalanced, PISE)
- Very gymped ench and smith other than tents or wine skins and survival things
- Heavy environment immersion (dark URWL with Mike Fox dark dungeons, heavy rain + snow, EDWS, Frostfall, Imps)
- Just about every decent enemy pack you can imagine (wars, skyrim live, occupy skyrim, moar, etc etc)
- And many many more mods, all running beautifully together

I play a sneak thief, dual wield + arrows + illusion. My goal is to tweak the game so that I can use every possible means to surive. I hate self imposed rules or restrictions, therefore I also want the map locations gone.

Being a long time RPG player, I can tell you that these mods turn Skyrim into an incredible journey of survival and challenge. If anyone is interested in my mod list, please let me know and I'll post.

Thanks for your help!
Sham

» Sun May 27, 2012 6:23 pm

Sham, I agree and have a near-identical setup. I don't even open the map or the quest pages - they're like playing with a walk-through.

To me, role playing is all about what you'd actually have in the game world. Maps and quest locations are just cheating.

EDIT: And yes, I'd love to see your mod list. Thanks!

» Mon May 28, 2012 2:22 am

Cool. Nice to hear I'm not the only crazy one. The key principle is ...to each his own. I recently pvssyd with a guy who was playing vanially Skyrim. He complained how hard it is and that he wishes for more guidance and lower difficulty levels. For him its perfectly normal to go exactly in the oppostie direction that I go with the game. The ability to do so is what makes TES great.

I actually use the quest pages...they don't bother me. But again, to each his own

So, now I maybe promised more than I can deliver. Is there a reasonable way to show you my 173 plugins/mods (oops, not counting steam only ones)? I don't want to type them all in lol. Any ideas how to export a mod list? Maybe I need to do some screenshots.

» Mon May 28, 2012 5:52 am

I searched the forums and no luck. I'm looking for what is surely a simple mod:

Remove ALL map markers, permanently

What I mean is towns, shrines, anything...I just want a blank map that I can use to navigate. I used TMM in console, but its not so helpful, because the places come back when I re-discover them.

Could someone please help me?
Thanks!
Sham :run:

You could do it yourself really quick and dirty by loading up the CK, loading Skyrim.esm, typing Map Marker into the object window, and deleting it. It's not the best way, but it would get the job done. If you have the time, you could also just delete every one from the world. That would be far more clean, but also time consuming.

» Sun May 27, 2012 2:10 pm

Oh thanks guys, that was easier than I thought. Last time i checked the compass tuner, it was, well... a compass tuner ^^ --> glad it now does maps too!

You asked why? The reason is indeed immersion. ...

I completely disabled the HUD but I use the in-game map instead of a hand-written one, as I described earlier. I don't need mods that make Skyrim more difficult to play; it's not a survivor game.

» Mon May 28, 2012 5:19 am

So, now I maybe promised more than I can deliver. Is there a reasonable way to show you my 173 plugins/mods (oops, not counting steam only ones)? I don't want to type them all in lol. Any ideas how to export a mod list? Maybe I need to do some screenshots.

Using a program like NMM, I believe there's an option that allows you to export your list. BOSS and Wrye Bash probably also have a similar feature. Just be sure to put a spoiler tag on it once you post it. I'm also interested in what you're using.

» Mon May 28, 2012 3:32 am

OK, I exported the list of plugins from BOSS. Hope you can recognize all the mods, if not, let me know and I'll clarify. I am guessing that there are some conflicting mods in this list, but they seem to not cause any game problems. If you find anything clearly not compatible or reduandant, let me know. I invested a lot of hours in this list and am always looking to improve!

I have no idea how to use a spoilertag! So I changed font color to black. Just highlight the below to be able to read it.

Also, tools I use are
NMM
BOSS - I use standard boss order, except that I move darklights template (MIke's) after URWL or it won't work
Wrye Bash - for leveled lists only
Extra Hotekeys
Script Dragon
SKSE
Skyrim Compass Tuner :-)

Skyrimspeeds

Here are my plugins:

Spoiler

Skyrim.esm Active
Update.esm Active
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esm Active
Imp's More Complex Needs.esm Active
SkyMoMod.esm Active
WARZONES - Civil Unrest.esm Active
BlackTowerArmory.esm Active
HBE.esm Active
JSwords.esm Active
hideout.esm Active
moonpath.esm Active
Omegared99-Compilation.esm Active
Shadow Striping Fix.esp Active
Unofficial Skyrim Patch.esp Active
Chesko_Frostfall.esp Active
enhanceddynamicweathersystem.esp Active
Bardsoundsmalukah.esp Active
DFG's Blade & Dagger Sheathe Sounds.esp Active
IceBreaker's Improved Reverb.esp Active
Improved Combat Sounds v2.0.esp Active
SoS - The Dungeons.esp Active
SoS - The Wilds.esp Active
SkyrimURWL.esp Active
Dark Light Templates.esp Active
enhanced soundtrack 02.esp Active
Weapons and Armor fixes - Hacks.esp Active
Weapons and Armor fixes.esp Active
StaticMeshImprovementMod.esp Active
00EButterfliegenENGLISH.esp Active
3DNPC.esp Active
AThievesTreasure.esp Active
BetterFishAdded.esp Active
Birds.esp Active
Crafting300.esp Active
Crimson Tide - Blood.esp Active
Dr_Bandolier.esp Active
EquipableMap.esp Active
Fixed Followers.esp Active
getnpcinfo.esp Active
GiveADogAHome.esp Active
HigherLevelEnemies.esp Active
hqsnow.esp Active
improvedskillbooks.esp Active
improvedquestbooks.esp Active
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Around Cities.esp Active
Lanterns Of Skyrim - Bridges x2 - OnOff.esp Active
Lunar Forge Patch.esp Active
UnlimitedBookshelves.esp Active
lt_better_horses.esp Active
Malkavs Collection.esp Active
more carriages.esp Active
MoreGrass.esp Active
MoreRainWindy66percentLessView.esp Active
MoreSnowWindyand150percentLessView.esp Active
MoreVillageAnimals.esp Active
Occupy Skyrim.esp Active
RabbitsPlus.esp Active
rats.esp Active
SabreFurBag.esp Active
SkyMoMod_lists.esp Active
SkyMoMod Extras Collectables.esp Active
SkyrimLive.esp Active
SkyrimsUniqueTreasures.esp Active
TK_Placeable_Clutter.esp Active
TK_Clutter_Plants.esp Active
Unicorn.esp Active
WerewolvesSpawn.esp Active
Wilderness War Parties Standalone V12.esp Active
adventurersandtravelers.esp Active
CrowdedCities.esp Active
Auto Unequip Arrows.esp Active
IMAGINATOR - Visual Control for Skyrim.esp Active
Compelling Treasure Maps.esp Active
aassassinscraftables.esp Active
BaratheonArmor.esp Active
BattleFlute.esp Active
BlackSacramentArmor.esp Active
Cloaks - No Imperial.esp Active
Cloaks - Player Only.esp Active
Cloaks.esp Active
1nivWICCloaksCRAFT.esp Active
1nivWICCloaks.esp Active
1nivWICSkyCloaksPatch.esp Active
dbarrows.esp Active
dbbownogloss.esp Active
dbdagger.esp Active
dbsword.esp Active
DragonBoneWeaponsComplete.esp Active
HedgeKnight.esp Active
isilNarsil.esp Active
JSwordsDistributionBalancePlugin.esp Active
LFArmors.esp Active
listernersarmorset.esp Active
Moar Kontent.esp Active
Omegared99-WeaponSets.esp Active
Omegared99-Compilation-NPC Plugin.esp Active
RedguardKnight.esp Active
Remodeled Armor.esp Active
VagabondArmor.esp Active
VanguardArmor.esp Active
WarchiefArmor.esp Active
WeaponsOf3E.esp Active
3rdEraWeaponsMoS.esp Active
WVExpansion.esp Active
Complete Crafting Overhaul.esp Active
PISE.esp Active
DeadlyDragons.esp Active
DeadlyDragonsSpells.esp Active
DeadlyDragonsArmory.esp Active
BetterRiften.esp Active
BlackTowerUpdate.esp Active
Divine Intervention.esp Active
Golden Egg Treasure Hunt.esp Active
HuntForTheWayStones.esp Active
moonpath_questdata.esp Active
SleepingDangers-SandsofTime.esp Active
AT - Loot Arrows -75%.esp Active
AT - Faster Arrows Improved +10%.esp Active
AT - Merchants Arrows -75%.esp Active
AT - Recover 50% Less Arrows.esp Active
AT - Progressive Damage (BS and CCO).esp Active
Better Dynamic Snow.esp Active
BetterQuestObjectives.esp Active
BetterSwimming.esp Active
BurntCorpse.esp Active
Disable Fast Travel Permanently - Carriages cost 10x more.esp Active
HBE_VendorAndLootOverride.esp Active
HBE_SlowLeveling070.esp Active
HBE_DelayedPotions.esp Active
HBE_BarterRatio63.esp Active
MatsoImmersiveSun.esp Active
skooma.esp Active
Spells Cast Light.esp Active
torches for realistic lighting.esp Active
Tougher Traps.esp Active
UnreadBooksGlow.esp Active
walk.esp Active
WATER.esp Active
wieldablelantern.esp Active
dD - Realistic Ragdoll Force - Realistic.esp Active
SkyrimSpeeds.esp Active
IMCN - Overrides.esp Active
Apocalypse - The Spell Package.esp Active
markrecall.esp Active
dovahkiinrelax.esp Active
DeadlySpellImpacts.esp Active
ignitetheworld.esp Active
crimes!.esp Active
hardcoe Lockpicking1-12.esp Active
The Dance of Death.esp Active
DeadlyCombat.esp Active
DeadlyCombat_PISE_Patch.esp Active
DeadlyCombat_UnarmedFix.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_ScriptDragon.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_RandomAttacks.esp Active
Duel - Combat Realism.esp Active
ACE Speech.esp Active
ACE Archery.esp Active
ACE Armor.esp Active
ACE Enchanting.esp Active
ACE Melee.esp Active
ACE Smithing.esp Active
ACE Synergy.esp Active
N_43 Hair Pack.esp Active
UFO - Ultimate Follower Overhaul.esp Active
Better Followers - NP.esp Active
Follower Trap Safety.esp Active
[mpx]raceheights.esp Active
Timescale5.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_LeftHand.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_DualPowerAttack.esp Active
Dual Wield Parrying_DualAttack.esp Active
Bashed Patch, 0.esp Active

» Mon May 28, 2012 5:38 am

Spoiler

this should be a spoiler.

The third from the left in the editor (above where I'm typing this!), top row, is BBcode for me. That gives options including spoiler. I've not used it, so I'm not sure, but that should work.
The point of the tag is not to hide it in this instance, but to stop your post being really long... which it is at the moment :tongue:

Also some people use white backgrounds, so this would show up for them (same reason why people should use automatic font colour, not white.)

Edit: excellent! it worked.

» Mon May 28, 2012 1:02 am

The third from the left in the editor (above where I'm typing this!), top row, is BBcode for me. That gives options including spoiler.

It worked! Thanks...learn something every day :read:

» Sun May 27, 2012 4:50 pm

Oh no. That's not enough Shamino. :biggrin:

You have to elaborate on your mod choices and play style a bit. Go on, your fingers wont cramp.

» Sun May 27, 2012 6:08 pm

Using a program like NMM, I believe there's an option that allows you to export your list. BOSS and Wrye Bash probably also have a similar feature. Just be sure to put a spoiler tag on it once you post it. I'm also interested in what you're using.

You have complete lists of your mods and plugings in C:\Users\Username\AppData\local\Skyrim. AppDate is a hidden folder; you just have to make it visible in the Windows settings.

» Sun May 27, 2012 9:56 pm

May I ask why you want no markers at all?

For me, it's that the markers are so cartoonishly large. The more they crowd the map the smaller Skyrim seems to be. The distance between cities appears less because the markers associated with those cities take up so much space. Besides which, they are (in my opinion) as aesthetically attractive as highway billboards and, like billboards, ruin the beauty of the landscape they cover up.

I've often thought about resizing the markers so that they're much smaller. They were obviously meant to be easily recognizable from across a living room when seen on a TV. But when viewed 12" away on a monitor they are way, way, way too large, in my opinion. I may do that resizing mod some day. But in the meantime I will try the mod that crash_oxide linked to.

» Sun May 27, 2012 8:11 pm

Does the compass tuner modify the BSA itself?

Am I the only one? --&#62; permanently remove ALL map marker

Am I the only one? --> permanently remove ALL map marker