You, sir, just summed up the fallacy of all sequel hate. All. Be it Fallout 3, BF3, Skyrim, ME2, anything.
I have copied your post in a notepad file and shall utilize it with appropriate quotations, when the need arises.
I salute you. Could not have said it better myself.


And I love Dr. Pepper!

I concur.

Just lost credibility there. If you are talking about hyping the game and the game deliviering, you are OH so wrong there my friend. No disrespect to you, but I disagree with you there. Oblivion did not deliver on what was hyped. Todd did hype up Oblivon as Morrowind 2.0. As we all lernt, Oblivon is it's own game. I love Oblivon, just as I love Morrowind, Daggerfall and Arena. Disapointed with Battlespire, in fact never played it much (just wasn't interested in it) and never got the chance to play Redguard. Because of Todd's hype of Oblivon, I stayed pretty much away from his hype on Skyrim. From what I have been reading, it was a wise choice for me to do that, otherwise, it would be the same for you, disapointed in Skyrim at first.

From reading your post, you were expecting Oblivion 2.0. I guess now you know how Morrowind fans felt. Also, what is the good things about the game? I don't see you listing any in your post. Guess we are alike we ramble alot missing out on what we want to say.

I say yes it's a TES game. In fact each TES game is different from it's predeccessor. When TES VI comes out, it will be different from Skyrim. If we are going to say what is not a TES game, I would say it was Oblivion on first release. I hated it so much that it wasn't Morrowind 2.0 (mainly because that is what Todd hyped it up to be, nice to see this is the one mistake he didn't do with Skyrim saying it would be Oblvion 2.0) but after a month away from not playing Oblivion I have lernt to love the game for what it is. It is it's own TES game. Same thing for Skyrim. It's not Oblivion 2.0, it is it's own TES game. Do what I did, do not think of Oblivions game play or in my case Morrowind or Daggerfalls game play, but play it as it's own game.

As you said, if it didn't have the TES name in it, it would be a great game. I find Skyrim an awsome game just because of the experiance I have lernt from Oblivion when it was hyped and released.

Trust me, I know how you feel. Once you get passed what was hyped, what was promised and not comparing it to it's previous TES game(s) you may just love Skyrim for just being Skyrim.

Again I fully understand where you are coming from.

Yeah, you tell him how his personnel expectations of what he would be getting in the game based on his knowledge of Bethesda are incorrect so the game isn't meeting his personnel expectations!

Let's see.... open world, level your skills by using them, first person/action game mechanics.... yep, seems like a Elder Scrolls game to me.

(And then there's the part where it says "Elder Scrolls" and "Bethesda" on the cover. )

Can't tell if serious. He said "based off of what was advertised, my expectations were met". This statement is lulzy.

They said multiple times that the economy would be a "minor touch"
And now that it's not included in the game it seems as if it was the greatest travesty ever to befall the Elder Scrolls series. Honestly, were you really looking forward only to the economy portion of the game? By the way all of you stick to that issue that seems to be the case. You guys are just finding some random thing they didn't include and then bashing them for it because Skyrim wasn't Morrowind 2.0 or Oblivion 2.0

Uh, it actually svcked. Did you play Morrowind?

They were rich after they released Morrowind. They were mega rich after they released Oblivion (which was also an effort to milk the series with a sellout game). They were ultra rich after Fallout 3... They were rich a long, long time ago.

Wut?
Go buy a television. Oops, didn't come with a remote. Oops, didn't come with a screen. Didn't come with a cord.

Go buy a ceiling fan. Oops! Didn't come with blades!

Understanding the metaphoric anology? Nope? Let me spoon feed you.

All of these things are items you buy expecting certain things because they were explicitly advertised to contain said things.

If you buy a tv that is advertised to have a wall frame, and then it does NOT come with it, no biggy right? Why nitpick?

Technically you can sabotage with the books, and you can interact with mills. Wrong-o.

Very poor parallels. What you should be drawing a parallel to is a wall frame that doesn't hold the TV the way you envisioned it would, as in Skyrim, ways to influence the economy do exist. You just don't like how it works.

And using the TV example, it's shame on you for not knowing what you were buying. You assumed too much.

What ignorant logic.
And I should have known what I was buying?

Kind of like how I base my knowledge of what I buy by advertisemants, and the description of the contents on the box?

Goes for both games and tvs. Next horrid retort, please.

Of course it's a TES game. It certainly looks and plays and feels like one to me.

Call of Skyrim: Dragon Ops

You're a terrible crybaby. Oh noes the dark elf voices changed BETHESDA GIVE ME MY MONEY BACK

First of all, there isn't a "TES Game" from which all the other games needs to follow suit, there are very different games under the "TES Franchise", Arena was different from Daggerfall that was different from Morrowind that was different from Oblivion that is different from Skyrim.



Not to say that the raspy voice was just featured once. All the other times that we heard a Dunmer it didn't have a raspy voice.

They never put in the cover "SKYRIM! Now with new raspy Dunmer voices! 50% off!"

You're apparently not grasping the idea. The idea isn't how significant the omission, but the fact that there was one at all without disclosing that information to the people that you previously told the opposite.
Derp.

Arrogant? You don't agree so I'm providing 'arrogance'?

What a pantload. Yes you should have known what you were buying, in every aspect of consumer purchasing, without exception. The manufacturers did not state that you could do what you assumed you could. You made that up in your head based on what you heard and were told. And then you have the arrogance to blame them for it. Are you for real? people like you are the reason that many toys have disclaimers that read "action figures do not move on their own".

Post a snapshot of what it says about the economies on the gamebox, please.

Yes.

especially weird when you take a look at his complaints :S

yeah the faces in oblivion were extremely varied and didn't look weird at all XD
and it didn't even have children

can't say I really get this thread since none of his complaints seem to have anything to do with the introction about consoles, pc's or skyrim using an updated oblivion engine

Things change, maybe the voice actor had to be replaced. Plus 2 of your other points are actually wrong.

We see you trolling.

I don't need to provide a "snapshot" of anything. By advertisemants, I'm going on what Todd Howard himself said to us on 3 ocassions. That's called advertisemant. That's the parallel of on the box for tvs. You're not nearly intelligent as you insinuate if you can't grasp that.

I dont think it is a TES game anymore, in fact I never did beat Morrowind or Oblivion legit but this game I beat it so easily.

Sigged!