Well, where I live, underneath the water, is a pyramid, thought by geologists to be at least 10,000 years old. Most scholars wont touch it. Historians wont speak of it, but it exists. I'm none too surprised to see this sort of thing go unnoticed by academia.. It seems in the sciences and humanities a profound skepticism for everything that doesn't fit with the accepted historical record or sciences. So profound that it has become more of a poison than helpful as it was in the past.

There are many of examples of this sort of thing, which I wont begin to delve into here, but there are numerous monolithic antediluvian structures, which by their nature predate anything in the historical timeline all over the world.

Who made them? What happened to these people?

Cultures all over the world speak of ancient peoples before them that created grand civilizations which were then wiped out by some cataclysmic event. Is it simply human nature to formulate these kinds of myths, or is there truth?

links to info on such a pyramid ?

lol, well, you can easily find it on Google. I'm actually going to this place in a few months. It's like an hour away by boat.

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070919-sunken-city.html

ALIENS!!

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2007/09/070919-sunken-city.html

What are you talking about. Didn't they do several shows on the Discovery Network or some such other channel about the underwater pyramid of Japan? I could've sworn I watched something about it at least several times over the past few years. It's not quite as unknown as you claim it to be.

Edit.

I was ninja'd by tgl, with the same exact link. Except I don't have the fancy wording of it; because I don't know how to do it.

I've seen links showing photos of pyramids in China.

plenty comes up when you google it. I'm not sure how true they are as each one is covered in vegetation and it makes you question why?


But why no decent pictures? If I was to see an underwater pyramid in Japan, I'd try to get every possible shot to prove it exists.

They found a stone structure in the Baltic Sea that they said predated the ice age because of the stone deposits found on it. The famous Millennium Falcon shaped thing. Some say it's a hoax, who knows. I think that you are right about the reluctance to accept differing views to the established academic theories.

I know for a fact it was on ancient aliens the one time I have ever watched that show.

Unknown, no. However, it's been known for at least 20 years, and despite its significance, just a few professors are even researching it, and one of them lives here. There have been a few documentaries on this, but this is quite a large discovery, something that could change history as we know. It certainly deserves more than a glance from a few television channels. It needs serious research.

I don't know, therefore aliens.

Anyways, I've been reading some about these mysterious underwater pyramid ruins in Japan, and it's really fascinating stuff.

It always makes me very happy to know that there are still unexplored places on our earth, such as the one you speak of. I would love to one day go into these untouched areas and see what secrets have been left to be discovered.

As for who made them? In some cases, migrations occur that we lose track of due to massive shifts in climate and what not. The Ice Age collects all tracks of migraters in snow, which eventually melts away, leaving us only with tools and bones to try and understand the links between cultures. It is possible that at one point before the ice age, this pyramid could have been built on what was once fertile land. After icy time occurs, the melting process submerges that pyramid underwater.

What we don't know is simply another adventure waiting to happen though, so even if this theory is terribly off, which I imagine it is, knowledge is always something that is never out of our grasp.

I doubt aliens but there is so much evidence to show the ancients were much more able.

Even in folklore around the world it says this.

Even in the Bible it says after the Noah survived the flood and as man multiplied they were able to achieve great ability so God divided the planet up.

Well, the photos that exist now are the ones taken back in 2000 I believe. The problem with this sort of thing is funding of course, which is why us "amateurs" should go out and explore this. After all, Troy and the Mask of Agammenon were all discovered by an amateur archaeologist, who disregarded the naysayers of academia and made one of the most important discoveries in history.

I just googled it and you can see a computer animated model of the complete structure - cool

If I remember what I watched on discovery so many, many years ago, it's in some sort of inlet on an island, submerged in the ocean.

As seen on tv

On a side note, you know what's the funny thing? The guy who discovered Troy was Heinrich Schliemann, an amateur archaeologist. While the academic community thought it was smart to disregard Homer in the location of Troy, this guy decided it was smart to actually use the books to find it; lo and behold, he did.

Now, there are some scholars saying that this is a natural formation. It doesn't look like it to me at all, but I'll have to go see for myself to make certain.

are there any doors or rooms in the structure?


here are the Chinese pyramids

http://www.philipcoppens.com/china_pyr.html

According to some, its either a completely natural formation, or one that was merely modified by humans in the past which personally, I find likely.

Although there will always be people who cry "Atlantis!" or "Aliens!"

The problem is, there hasn't been enough inquiry and research to decided either of those, and that's what needs to happen; of course, I don't think it will. I mean, these kinds of structures have been popping up all over the globe for decades, and nothing is being said of them.

But it's interesting isn't it that Plato thought there was an "atlantis." The Egyptians thought there was a "lost continent" called Mu. The Indians believed in Lemuria. I think there must be something to this.

And part of the reason why it hasn't recieved more attention is because it has become synonymous with all the UFO/Atlantis nuts who use this as evidence for their theories or talk about it in such a manner. For many scientists or historians, to research more into this would be something of a career killer.

"Oh you went off to research Atlantis? Pffttt.."

Besides, simply because it looks man-made doesn't mean that it is. There are plenty of natural formations that look like they've been sculpted by humans, yet are the result of natural geological processes:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giants_causeway


Plato never believed there was an Atlantis. He used Atlantis as a made-up civilization to show examples of his social theories. People have taken it to far.

Its like someone in the future picking up one of our fiction books and showing it up to the world to say "Here! Look! We should find this place!"

Ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn.

Or possibly Reapers, it's kind of the same deal.

Psh Aliens... Every One knows that the Japanese Loch Ness Monster worked with the Ancient Sea Dragons to create this after their groups battled in the Mystical War. They built it as a sign of peace to let all their other generations know that they could never battle again for fear of destroying the earth thus ending all life.

If it wasn't for this pyramid we would all be doomed.

Well, to be honest, I think the situation comes from lack of funding and a difficulty in receiving tenure by "going against the grain." It's much safer for an academic to play by the rules and accept common dogma, thereby receiving tenure, funding, and a paycheck.

Discoveries were often met with criticism in the past, it's nothing new today. However, the difficulty in receiving tenure and funding is infinitely much harder today than it was 50 years ago.

Not only that, but I really don't think it's in the best interest of academia to simply ignore these kinds of structures simply because some people believe they were created by aliens. The fact is these structures or "formations" exist and deserve serious research.

Plato makes it clear where he supposes Atlantis to be which is past the Gibraltar Straights in the Atlantic Ocean. Scientists have checked the ocean and there is no such land mass. It is all formed from continents separating. Even the Azores are a result of volcanic deposit so they are not the peak of some former land as some writers have tried to suggest.

There is ample evidence to show that the ancients could navigate the sea much better than we give credit and that they knew the world was round (ancient maps have been found such as the Piri Reis, there is a Roman statue in Ephesus showing the emperor with his foot on a globe, tobacco traces have been found in Egypt...)

This would suggest that world communication can spread tales and lore. Many historians believe that the tale of Atlantis, the tale of Adam, the tale of Manu and Mu etc etc are all stories of a common source. Amongst native Americans they have similar tales of a flood myth. It did not have to be a total world flood to create such tales.

One thing we know for sure is that the ancients were clever people. It would make sense that a major environmental disaster would put the world into blackness and could be the reason for the fall of knowledge. Arguments as to what could have happened is a meteor hit the Earth, the moon was pulled into the Earth's gravity. Any of these would cause tidal wave, tide rises, major storms and earthquakes etc. It could even have put us into the ice age afterwards.