Well whenever cannons were invented and whenever firearms where invented. I still feel they are to modern. Not modern like a AR-15 or a .50 cal machine gun, but in their use they feel like a modern thing. Even though they are old.

I'd prefer there to be gunpowder to shoot like a firework type of projectile if we get any more modern than that technology in The Elder Scrolls video games.

I just don't want cannons leave them for something like close to when we get to a more industrialized era.

are they though? I think you are comparing early cannons a little to closely to more modern cannons (you seem to be picturing something such as cannonades, or maybe what is commonly called a "Naval Cannon")


those early Cannons were very expensive and difficult to manufacture, heavy enough they were more difficult to move than a catapult or Ballista, highly inaccurate with long reload times, and would blow up the people assigned to fire them 3/10 times..


Cannons used in a more modern era (which is what you seem to be comparing them to when you said "industrialized era") were quite different than the types of cannons I am talking about..



from a pure "technological" standpoint, we have seen several things in the past 3 games that are far more "Modern" than a cannon is

I'm not going to argue about the cannons from the industrialized era and cannons far more older.

I don't want to see them at all. Not yet in The Elder Scrolls video games.

well you better hope the next game isn't set in Hammerfell

I do hope that.

I'm fine enough with the Dwarven steam powered technology.

It's called Fallout.

Fantasy and Sci-fi are both fine with me, but I prefer not to mix them. The suspension of disbelief in order to incorporate either magic or advanced technology is one thing; having to do both, while trying to mentally resolve why they would both develop in parallel and redundantly, stretches that beyond what I find enjoyable. Quite simply, advanced technology is a form of magic, and if you have that in the game, you don't need "traditional" magic.

Cannon are within the realm of "medieval fantasy", but not ADVANCED cannon. Bulky, heavy, and slow-firing weapons in fixed emplacements or aboard ships are fine with me; wheeled cannon that can be towed into place by a couple of horses and then quickly loaded and fired are another story. Historically, those didn't happen until several centuries after the introduction of cannon on the battlefield, and TES hasn't even reached the point where semi-mobile guns (bombards and mortars) are useful on the offense in sieges. As far as I can tell, they're purely used in fixed emplacements for fort defense, or on ship where they essentially roll back on wooden tracks about 6-8 feet for loading, then forward for firing.

Hey funny,

can you point me to the in-game book on Sentinel you were refering to?

it was http://en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Jokes



yes, it if s j0oke book, but it does confirm cannons exist because if they didn't "cannon" would come off as complete gibberish because no one would know what they are, therefore it would not work..

yes, yes it does



and no need to apologize, this is the Bethesda forums, people have posted far worse puns

It's confirmed in a way that there are also spaceships in the The Elder Scrolls lore as well.

It was in like 2013 when Bethesda Softworks trade marked the Starfield name someone brought up that about in the fourth era the Imperials were building a spaceship to go to one of the moons.

Probably funnybunny has more information on where this can be found.

not quite, the spaceships are mostly referenced in MK's out-of-game texts.. Cannons however are directly mentioned in the games itself (as well as seen in Redguard).. so yes, Cannons do exist and they seem to be relatively common enough that the average person would know what one is..

I vaguely remember a post like that, but I considered it so far out there I didn't pay much attention

Oh I remember now the spaceship is a Adamantium spaceship or Admantum or something I can't remember the name, but it was a word with A. Something similar to Adamantium.

Adumihn?