Hi,

Must be something I missed, but I searched this Forum, Google, Nexus and CK-wiki and found nothing usable.

Q: How to access global variables from other mods?

I tried to load another .esp as a plugin and managed to get its variables shown in CK. Then I put one of them in my script's properties and tried to read & write it with no success. I read something that I should use .esm, but is that still the case?

The problem with this is, it all depends on the load order...if the mod that is dependant on the globals loads first, it will fail to find the variables it's expecting.

Damn, I already let myself joy about the quick solution, but it didn't work...

Originally, I had Data Files / Load Order:

MyMod
TheOtherMod

I changed it to:

TheOtherMod
MyMod

Still the .GetValue() gets me 0.0000 when the console command gets me 3.0000.

What do I do wrong?

While the game has no problem with it, the Creation Kit will not allow one data file to be the master of another data file unless it has the ESM flag set in its file header.

In order to access data from one ESP file in another ESP file, it's necessary to set that bit (I think there are a few 3rd party utilities with this feature, although I've not had to do it myself for Skyrim) in the file that you want to be a master (leaving the file extension as it is) before you use it in the Creation Kit. After editing, the bit should be reset, but it needs to be specified as a master file whenever you open its "slave" in the Creation Kit.

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That sounds awfully clumsy way to do something so simple...

I could do that, yes, but how about others who use my mod and that another mod? Would I have to guide them to do the same thing themselves?

There must be an easier workaround, otherwise shame on you Beth'... This should really be a basic thing.

A thought: Is there a way to run console commands in a script? Because if so, I'd run a "SET" command to modify the value right there. Or I could tell the script to run an external BAT, which I could include in the mod package.

More suggestions, anyone?

To get with a first .esp the value of a Global modified by a second .esp, you must update the Global with UpdateCurrentInstanceGlobal, in a Quest script of your second .esp. The Global must also be added to the Global list of your Quest.

No, this is only required when editing the file. Like I said, the game doesn't have any problem with it, but the Creation Kit does. This was the case for previous games like Oblivion and Fallout 3, too.

There is no way in which you can run console commands from Papyrus. The two systems are completely independent, sharing no code and not talking to one another.

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Ha!

I actually managed to find a way to circumvent this whole obscurity...:

GlobalVariable OtherModGV
OtherModGV = Game.GetForm(0x01234567) as GlobalVariable

After that the variable is indeed accessible like i.e:

Debug.MessageBox(OtherModGV.GetValue())

I suspected there should be a more simpler way and there was! Anyway, thanks for taking part to this problem.

Only thing I do worry about now, is what happens, if someone uses another mod apart the mod I want to manipulate here... There could be the same hex value in any form (i.e. custom actor 0x01234567) not designed to be modified by my mod... And what if there are two of same values... But I can live with that for now.

Using formIDs in Papyrus is a bad idea. Scripts should never be made directly aware of the content in a data file. If you need a script to interface with content in a data file, that's what properties are for.

I don't recommend ever using http://www.creationkit.com/GetForm_-_Game unless it's somehow required for debugging purposes only.

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I am having a problem calling a custom GlobalVariable that is local to my mod.

Scriptname HumanAging extends Quest  GlobalVariable property GameDaysPassed auto  GlobalVariable property PlayerAge auto  GlobalVariable property GameHour autoEvent OnInit()Debug.Notification("Project Legacy - Aging Script Loaded.")RegisterForUpdateGameTime(1)CheckTimeOfDay()EndEventfunction CheckTimeOfDay()float TimeofDay = gamehour.getValue()  if (TimeOfDay == 0)  GotoState("Aging")   elseif (game.getplayer().isDead() == True)   UnregisterForUpdateGameTime()  endifendfunctionState AgingEvent OnUpdateGameTime()  int CurrentAge = PlayerAge.GetValueint()  float DaysPassed = GameDaysPassed.GetValue()  float YearCount = (DaysPassed) / 356  float Age = (CurrentAge) + (YearCount)  PlayerAge.SetValue(Age)  Debug.Notification("Project Legacy - Age Check: " + Age as int + " years old.")		 EndEventEndState

It seems to get the value of GameHour perfectly fine, but it always returns PlayerAge as 0 even though it is set as 21 by default.

Bumping for help.

EDIT:

Never mind. I figured it out.