Add a little coarse language (Real or not)

Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:12 pm

I find it really weird how nobody in a land famous for its gruff, rough and tough warriors has anything to say beyond what is essentially "oh my god." Why do they not swear? Even if the swear words were made up (swit, n'wah etc.) it would make the characters more believable and the dialogue more natural.

It's not even an issue of controversy or appropriateness since some characters do swear in the game. When the do swear, it's really forced. If it really is a problem for the rating of the game, then made up words could easily be used:

Go take a frodding bath, you smell like skag!

Go filch yourself, milk-drinker!

Frod off, you stupid lag!

etc.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:58 pm

Nothing pulls me out of period set piece more than a modern curse word. It just doesn't fit at all. I didn't like it in Witcher, I hated it in the Sparticus series. It just doesn't belong. Making up curse words is just as bad. I can't stand that frack thing they used in Battlestar Galactica. That always just sounded so stupid to me. I'm sure others won't agree but I'm glad they left it out to be honest.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:12 am

It would be ... Really unnecessary. Why would Betheda hire all of the voice actors again, in order to patch in sine dialogue with no bearing on the gameplay at all? Perhaps in DLC, but certainly not in the core game.

Besides, why the need for foul language? I daresay people in Tamriel are just less rude than we Earthlings.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:02 pm

No, thanks.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:23 pm

I can't stand that frack thing they used in Battlestar Galactica. That always just sounded so stupid to me. I'm sure others won't agree but I'm glad they left it out to be honest.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:50 am

It's not just because I want the game to have more foul language, it's because the dialogue to me sounds unnatural. Every NPC sounds like an actor in a play, rather than the "virtual people" they should be. Also disconcerting is the fact that a lowly peasant or a rough barbarian speaks just as well as a Jarl.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:46 am

I wished it did have more coarse language and threats as it would add more emotion into the game even if it were made up words.

This is what I liked about Oblivion especially when Valen Dreth and Alval Uvani did it.

For example when Alval said:
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"No! You filthy guttersnipe! You won't get away with this! By Sithis, if I could only move my arms. I'd rip that smile right off your face!"
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:44 pm

Swit and N'wah works, but those are dunmer expressions.
I don't feel that there needs to be any more swearing or harsher language.
Besides I think Milk-Drinker is probably the worst thing you can be called in the land of the Nords.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:56 pm

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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 3:53 pm

Besides I think Milk-Drinker is probably the worst thing you can be called in the land of the Nords.
What's this "milk" stuff you are talking about? Out of all my adventures across Skyrim. I have never came across this stuff you call "milk."
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:40 pm

To me, crude language is something bad writers pull out when they're too lazy to think of how to convey anger through clever dialogue.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 7:56 am

To me, crude language is something bad writers pull out when they're too lazy to think of how to convey anger through clever dialogue.
Coarse language doesn't necessarily mean anger, for example Valen Dreth from Oblivion uses it in a joyful manner.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:27 am

To me, crude language is something bad writers pull out when they're too lazy to think of how to convey anger through clever dialogue.
Or how people convey strong emotion...how often do you hear someone use crude language in your day? There was crude language in the Middle Ages, and well before that. Writers who want a realistic book/game include crude language.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:23 pm

Well people say damn and a few say piss, if you think those are crude words.

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Ulfric calls Elenwen a Thalmor [censored] during Season Unending...female dog if it's censored >.>
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:04 pm

To me, crude language is something bad writers pull out when they're too lazy to think of how to convey anger through clever dialogue.
How? Lets take War video games for example. It makes them a lot more realistic when you have the characters/A.I. using "crude language". Because they are expression thier emotions.

Lets say you were in WW2 and you are pinnded down under heavy German fire. And your comrades and friends are dying around you. I highly doubt you are not going to use "crude language". You are expression strong emotions by doing it.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:52 pm

I don't see much wrong with how the swearing is done in Skyrim. Use of some of the modern swears wouldn't make sense, though. Maybe a few more instances of the use of 'damn' would be fine, but most of the other swears that could be used wouldn't make sense. Calling someone the word for female dog would be a bit out of place. The word for illegitment child makes sense to use only sometimes, and is used only sometimes. A good few of our American swears and even most British swears would be out of place no matter what the context is.

The nords don't have much to work with in terms of made up swears. The Dunmer had a more hostile culture. They were a hostile people. It sort of is a given that they'd have strong words that usually just mean stuff like slave and outlander. The nords even before their loss of the Scottish voice never seemed like they had many things in their culture to work with. I mean, milk drinker is the most they have for now, and it seems to come from how children aren't combat ready.

I highly doubt even actual nords had strong words that meant much more than unclean or unfaithful. The Vikings were obsessive in their bathing habits, so they'd most likely use words that would translate into unclean or Odin is frowning.

Also, just because someone is rough, tough, or even rough around the edges doesn't mean they swear more than someone who isn't.

Now more violent phrases and insults, I'd love to see more of. Those are always fitting for the TES games.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:10 pm

I always thought milk-drinker referred to being a momma's boy, not actually an enjoyment of milk from cows.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 5:23 pm

I can't stand that frack thing they used in Battlestar Galactica. That always just sounded so stupid to me. I'm sure others won't agree but I'm glad they left it out to be honest.
Yeah, Battlestar Galactica's frack svcked, but Skyrim handled language much better than that. But then, Battlestar Galactica kind of svcked too. :ermm:
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 11:14 am

I like the word frack. I didn't hear it from the place it came from, though. A friend of mine was a frackaholic.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:23 pm

I like the word frack. I didn't hear it from the place it came from, though. A friend of mine was a frackaholic.
Yeah, but in the show they used it every other word...and it didn't even evoke any kind of feeling that a crude/strong word should. As a crude word, frack isn't all it was fracked up to be. :confused:
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:02 pm

Yeah, but in the show they used it every other word...and it didn't even evoke any kind of feeling that a crude/strong word should. As a crude word, frack isn't all it was fracked up to be. :confused:
Can you frack-tards stop using the word "frack"? It's really starting to be fracking annoying. Anne Frankly, I'm? fracking fuhrious.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:27 am

I want there to be a bigger variety in the way people talk. Not just their accents, but the kinds of words they use. Of course, that also includes curses, but also includes the complexity of their sentences, their speed, tone, and so on. It seems weird that most every character with the same voice actor speaks in exactly the same way, regardless of their socioeconomic standing. I think that does need to be fixed.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 4:40 am

I want there to be a bigger variety in the way people talk. Not just their accents, but the kinds of words they use. Of course, that also includes curses, but also includes the complexity of their sentences, their speed, tone, and so on. It seems weird that most every character with the same voice actor speaks in exactly the same way, regardless of their socioeconomic standing. I think that does need to be fixed.
Agreed. The beggars aren't acting like happy citizens in Skyrim, at least. Some are even insane now, which is awesome. Oblivion made it seem like Cyrodiil was trying to welcome tourists.
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 10:17 am

I want there to be a bigger variety in the way people talk. Not just their accents, but the kinds of words they use. Of course, that also includes curses, but also includes the complexity of their sentences, their speed, tone, and so on. It seems weird that most every character with the same voice actor speaks in exactly the same way, regardless of their socioeconomic standing. I think that does need to be fixed.

I can understand your point, but it needs to be subtle. For example, Oblivion's beggars: why do they all sound like old (wo)men, regardless of how young they are? They were a bit too exaggerated, and it sounded out-of-place.

And then they switch voices, and sound like any other NPC all of a sudden ...
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Post » Sun Aug 12, 2012 6:08 am

I can understand your point, but it needs to be subtle. For example, Oblivion's beggars: why do they all sound like old (wo)men, regardless of how young they are? They were a bit too exaggerated, and it sounded out-of-place.

And then they switch voices, and sound like any other NPC all of a sudden ...
Beggar: I saw a mudcrab the other day.
Not Beggar: Aren't you a bit too ill to be running around 10 miles away from town?
Beggar: Terrible creatures. I avoid them when I can.
Not Beggar: You scare me.
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