Aedra in Elder Scrolls

Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:17 am

It's starting to make a little sense. What are Et'ada? And who exactly is magnus?

Et'ada basically are the Original spirits before the creation of Mundus.

Magnus is an Et'ada, and can arguably be considered "Aedric" for his part in creation. But he left. disgusted with what Mundus had become. The sun is literally the hole that he created in his haste to leave

As for what he does? He's a God of magic
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:53 am

Et'ada basically are the Original spirits before the creation of Mundus.

Magnus is an Et'ada, and can arguably be considered "Aedric" for his part in creation. But he left. disgusted with what Mundus had become. The sun is literally the hole that he created in his haste to leave

As for what he does? He's a God of magic

That's right the sun that he created in his haste to leave leads to the realm of aetherius the source of magic that's why he's called the god of magic
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:02 am

Last question, are the nine divines all aedra?

Edit: Actually you know what, skrew it, this threads great, I'll find more questions.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:08 am

Last question, are the nine divines all aedra?

Yep! Though at least 1 of them was a mortal once:

Talos, God of war and governance (Inb4 thalmor comments)

Another Divine that is debated to have been a mortal was Arkay, though this hasn't been proven

If you have any other questions, I'd be happy to answer! Paladins know much about the Gods :biggrin:
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:46 am

Last question, are the nine divines all aedra?

Not quite as far as I know Talos is not because he didn't sacrifice a part of himself due to him ascended after mundus was created but his power is limited just like the other divines
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 8:24 am

Ok one of the people mentioned stars as tears in the sky. What caused that?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:33 pm

Ok one of the people mentioned stars as tears in the sky. What caused that?

Er... what? As far as I know the stars are hole that are created by the et'ada that follows Magnus, I may be wrong though.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:56 am

Not the crying kinds of tears just FYI. The hole kind
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 4:33 am

Well true they could be mutations but then again without those Daedrics Princes' influence they would have never been existent.

It isn't about whether they would have existed, it's that Hircine and Molag Bal both worked by changing something that already existed (mortal people) to be more to their liking.

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Re: Aedric appearances: Stendarr also appeared in Morrowind as part of the same questline in which Mara did.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:04 am

Not the crying kinds of tears just FYI. The hole kind

Ah... alright then, my bad. Basically when Magnus pull out from the creation he brought followers with him which all tore a hole in the sky the stars the biggest the sun, is caused by Magnus.

You know this makes me wonder if the vampires blot the sun in dawnguard dlc would magic be affected? After all the sun are the portal to aetherius the sources of magic.
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:49 pm

Ah... alright then, my bad. Basically when Magnus pull out from the creation he brought followers with him which all tore a hole in the sky the stars the biggest the sun, is caused by Magnus.

You know this makes me wonder if the vampires blot the sun in dawnguard dlc would magic be affected? After all the sun are the portal to aetherius the sources of magic.

I was actually just thinking that. Would spells simply not work? Or is there going to be some workaround?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:05 am

Anyway back to Aedra questions: Who is Lorkhan?
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Post » Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:32 pm

Anyway back to Aedra questions: Who is Lorkhan?

Lorkhan is a god that tricked other et'ada to create Mundus, however he went missing later on his nordic counterpart is shor while his cyrodilic counterpart is shezarine
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 7:24 am

Is it known where the Et'Ada came from?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 9:02 am

Is it known where the Et'Ada came from?

No, as far as I know. According to nordic belief the current tes universe is the third kalpa, the third universe so it probably went back farther then the et'ada but I'm not sure I'm not that well versed in lore you should bring it to the lore forum the people there dwarfs me in comparison of lore knowledge
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 12:19 pm

I think I'm gonna call it a night. I might make a new thread tomorrow (in lore, as suggested) but I think I'm good for tonight. Thanks for explaining all this.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:58 am

http://www.imperial-library.info/content/cosmology
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 3:17 am

Well i do beg to differ because Hircine created the abilities in which humans could turn to animals such as werewolves, werebears, etc as well as vampires being the creations of Molag Bal

I think that's more change, than creation. Hircine altered human/elven/"beast" form to turn into his werecreatures. And its not like he invented Wolves, Bears, Sharks, and Crocs so it is more change, than creation.

Not quite as far as I know Talos is not because he didn't sacrifice a part of himself due to him ascended after mundus was created but his power is limited just like the other divines

So the Thalmor are right in a way?
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 1:57 am

I think that's more change, than creation. Hircine altered human/elven/"beast" form to turn into his werecreatures. And its not like he invented Wolves, Bears, Sharks, and Crocs so it is more change, than creation.



So the Thalmor are right in a way?

No, the Thalmor are not right, what I meant to say is that I'm not sure to clasify Talos as Aedra or not, but he is a divine as proved in oblivion main quest where the blood of Talos is sufficient enough to be used as blood of the divines.

While the Thalmor insist that Talos is not a divine.
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 5:54 am

With the whole creation thing with Lorkhan and sacrifice, did that even happen? I thought the Aedra only existed because we believe that they did all this? If we believed that the Taco King created a taco but it mutated into a planet, that would become true and Akatosh and Co will vanish?>
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Post » Fri Jun 15, 2012 10:51 am

With the whole creation thing with Lorkhan and sacrifice, did that even happen? I thought the Aedra only existed because we believe that they did all this? If we believed that the Taco King created a taco but it mutated into a planet, that would become true and Akatosh and Co will vanish?>

The Aedra are based on cyrodilic and mer version of creation, no one know exactly how it happened. As there are several different myths such as the nordic belief (which I'm not familiar with), khajit belief (two beings that had many son and daughter which are their version of Aedra and Daedra), and yokudan belief (which I'm not to familiar either I think they involve snakes but I'm not sure)

However the Aedra and daedra that is commonly used are those from mer and cyrodilic belief however according to cyrodilic beleif shezarine(cyrodilic version of Lorkhan) did not tricked the other aedra while on mer Lorkhan tricked the other aedra.
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