Astrid is an idiot... : V

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:21 am

I just want to say, either Astrid is stupid and I don't pity her at all or there is just a really big loophole in the Dark Brotherhood questline. So we all know that she makes a deal with Commandor Maro selling you out and saving the Emperor's life. But my question is: Why would you make a deal with someone when you've killed their son? If they didn't know before it would be pretty obvious they would know now. I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting vengeance for that.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:13 pm

You know this is Spoilaz, why you still post it in General section anyway D:

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 12:50 pm

If you say spoilers in the title or tags, it really should go in the spoilers section.

Edit: Hi Five for rules!

Badprenup o/\o MK-{OmegaX}

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:30 pm

the irony of the title XD teeheeheeheehee!

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:34 pm

Yeah uber spoiler dude! Luckily, I've done the DB questline. All I can say is in Astrid's defence, the DB is her baby. She's doing what she thinks she needs to, to protect it.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:56 am

Commander Maro can't be sure you killed his son Gaius (unless you commited the murder in plain sight), but you are right, it would all be a bit too accidental. Astrid even admits herself that she was foolish, and wanted nothing more than to keep her little family together.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 2:23 pm

I suggest you write spoilers in the title.... I already new this but alot of people are going to be angry.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:14 am

She's an idiot for abducting a 230 lbs muscle-bound Nord warrior with a Greatsword to a small cabin in the swamp where no one can hear her scream when she presents him with the choice of killing three innocent people and he proceeds to skewer her on that Greatsword.

Epic.Fail. :facepalm:

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:31 pm

He did put spoilers in the title....but Its still a spoila.

I agree with the OP though, Astrid is an ass, and with her buffonery the entire sect paid for it.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 4:23 pm

I was pretty disappointed with the entire DB storyline.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 5:28 pm

Never mind.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:10 am

She is more of an idiot for marrying that fool. Astrid is a perfect FILF and all of that was ruined by her marrying that loud mouthed dolt

I killed him once but that was not the answer

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 3:43 pm

Nah. I pitied her at the end.
Now she has to deal with the torments that the Dread-Father has to provide.
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Meanwhile, the family begins to grow once again.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 1:08 pm

astrid did not want to give up her power.

pride cometh before the fall.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:15 am

I will mod Astrid's name to Astird.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:03 pm

She's an idiot for abducting a 230 lbs muscle-bound Nord warrior with a Greatsword to a small cabin in the swamp where no one can hear her scream when she presents him with the choice of killing three innocent people and he proceeds to skewer her on that Greatsword. Epic.Fail. :facepalm:

In all honesty, only one was innocent. And you can make her regret napping you anyway...

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:56 am

Commander Maro can't be sure you killed his son Gaius...

His name is "Gaius"?

Classic.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:45 am

Astrid assumed that he'd want revenge on the ACTUAL KILLER more than the organization.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:49 pm

And a hot one at that. She was being threatened by the prospect of being dethroned by the Night Mother's presence and the PC's ability as a listener. She got desperate and thought Maro would keep his end of the bargain as the PC was blamed for killing his son.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 9:44 am

presents him with the choice of killing three innocent people

3 Innocents people ??? Severe shades of gray in the Innocent.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 11:54 am

She really is. All that crap she talked about honor and family and never backstabbing one another or you'll regret it.....all crap. Just like Mercer Frey and the Thieves Guild, it's often the most virulent leaders who end up being the Benedict Arnold's. I barely liked the DB to begin with, mainly only did the storyline for the rewards. But after Astrid, I just abandoned that mess. I'll keep my 20 grand and let the last 2 DB's rot in Dawnstar.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 8:23 am

She really is. All that crap she talked about honor and family and never backstabbing one another or you'll regret it.....all crap. Just like Mercer Frey and the Thieves Guild, it's often the most virulent leaders who end up being the Benedict Arnold's. I barely liked the DB to begin with, mainly only did the storyline for the rewards. But after Astrid, I just abandoned that mess. I'll keep my 20 grand and let the last 2 DB's rot in Dawnstar.

I liked Astrid. It's Cicero that inflames the whole debate about the rights of the listener as the leader of the brotherhood. Only if she wasn't married.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 10:05 am

Nah. I pitied her at the end.
Now she has to deal with the torments that the Dread-Father has to provide.
-
Meanwhile, the family begins to grow once again.

I agree I pitied her at the end as well.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:27 pm

I just want to say, either Astrid is stupid and I don't pity her at all or there is just a really big loophole in the Dark Brotherhood questline. So we all know that she makes a deal with Commandor Maro selling you out and saving the Emperor's life. But my question is: Why would you make a deal with someone when you've killed their son? If they didn't know before it would be pretty obvious they would know now. I wouldn't blame anyone for wanting vengeance for that.

Astrid didn't kill his son, you killed his son. She offers the life of his son's killer inexchange Maro lays off the DB.
Say your commander Maro. "I can give you what most desire, the life of your son's killer, all I ask in return is you leave the brotherhood to do its business." What Astrid likely didn't know was Maro had already learned the pass phrase to enter the sanctuary.(which he gives to the player if he takes the destroy the DB path).

Commander Maro can't be sure you killed his son Gaius (unless you commited the murder in plain sight), but you are right, it would all be a bit too accidental. Astrid even admits herself that she was foolish, and wanted nothing more than to keep her little family together.

Sure he can because Astrid told him you did it.

» Wed Jun 06, 2012 7:20 pm

I found her and the DB quest line about as menacingly written and dark as an episode of My Little Pony. Such was my disdain for the two dullards left at the end I made them non essential and had a barbique over their remains.

Night Mother my ***